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# One shouldn't say [[Kiddish]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]].<ref>Rosh Pesachim 10:2 writes that the night of [[Pesach]] is special that we don't do the mitzvot before night even though by [[Shabbat]] and other [[Yom Tov]]im we hold that one can add from the weekdays to the [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. However, Rabbenu Yehuda Sirlion Brachot 27a s.v. drav writes that it is permitted to have Matzah earlier than the night if you accept Pesach early. Based on the Rosh, Tur writes that one shouldn't eat the meal before night night. Bet Yosef 472:1 quotes the Trumat Hadeshen 137 that rules that even the [[Kiddish]] which is part of the four cups of [[the Seder]] must be done at night. This is also the opinion of Shulchan Aruch 472:1 that [[Kiddish]] and the rest of the mitzvot of the night need to be done during the night. Taz 472:1 emphasizes the reason kiddush needs to be at night is because it is the time when the matzah is to be eaten and it is the primary course of the meal. Magen Avraham 472:1 emphasizes the reason that the kiddush is part of the four cups and that mitzvah also needs to be done at night. Chazon Ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 and Chazon Ovadia (teshuva 1) agrees. The Taz 472:1 gives another reason the [[Kiddish]] must be done at night; because the [[Kiddish]] is done in order to eat the [[Matzah]] and have [[Kiddish]] BeMakom [[Seudah]], just like the [[Matzah]] has to be at night so too does the [[Kiddish]]. Chazon | # One shouldn't say [[Kiddish]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]].<ref>Rosh Pesachim 10:2 writes that the night of [[Pesach]] is special that we don't do the mitzvot before night even though by [[Shabbat]] and other [[Yom Tov]]im we hold that one can add from the weekdays to the [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. However, Rabbenu Yehuda Sirlion Brachot 27a s.v. drav writes that it is permitted to have Matzah earlier than the night if you accept Pesach early. Based on the Rosh, Tur writes that one shouldn't eat the meal before night night. Bet Yosef 472:1 quotes the Trumat Hadeshen 137 that rules that even the [[Kiddish]] which is part of the four cups of [[the Seder]] must be done at night. This is also the opinion of Shulchan Aruch 472:1 that [[Kiddish]] and the rest of the mitzvot of the night need to be done during the night. Taz 472:1 emphasizes the reason kiddush needs to be at night is because it is the time when the matzah is to be eaten and it is the primary course of the meal. Magen Avraham 472:1 emphasizes the reason that the kiddush is part of the four cups and that mitzvah also needs to be done at night. Chazon Ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 and Chazon Ovadia (teshuva 1) agrees. The Taz 472:1 gives another reason the [[Kiddish]] must be done at night; because the [[Kiddish]] is done in order to eat the [[Matzah]] and have [[Kiddish]] BeMakom [[Seudah]], just like the [[Matzah]] has to be at night so too does the [[Kiddish]]. Chazon Ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 says that you don't need to wait until [[Tzet HaKochavim]] according to rabbeinu tam's calculation. Chatom Sofer Pesachim 99b is lenient to do kiddush after shekiya before tzet.</ref> | ||
# The table should be set before one returns from shul so that he can begin immediately at tzet hakochvim.<ref> Chazon Ovadia [[pesach]] page 1</ref> | # The table should be set before one returns from shul so that he can begin immediately at tzet hakochvim.<ref> Chazon Ovadia [[pesach]] page 1</ref> | ||
# Even one learning in a Bet Medrash should stop to start the meal on time (at Tzet) so that the children will be awake to ask questions.<ref> Tur and Shulchan Aruch 472:1 based on Gemara Pesachim 109a</ref> | # Even one learning in a Bet Medrash should stop to start the meal on time (at Tzet) so that the children will be awake to ask questions.<ref> Tur and Shulchan Aruch 472:1 based on Gemara Pesachim 109a</ref> | ||
