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# It's preferable to give the children who reached the age of [[Chinuch]] a cup for [[the four cups of wine]]. <ref> S"A 472:15 based on the Rosh. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 5- 6 says the age of [[chinuch]] for this is when the child can understand sippur yiztiat mitzrayim and says that this is the opinion in shulchan aruch harav 272:25. </ref>

==Sitting or standing for Kiddush==

# Many have the practice to sit for [[Kiddush]]. <ref>The Haggadah of the Roshei Yeshiva (pg 2, 7, 10, and 14) records the practice of Rav Isser Zalman Meltzer, the Steipler, Rav Yacov Kamenetsky, and Rav Moshe Feinstein to sit for Kaddesh of the [[seder]]. For more sources regarding sitting for [[Yom Tov]] [[Kiddish]] in general see the [[Kiddish]] page. </ref>

# If [[Pesach]] night falls out on Friday night, we add in [[Kiddish]] Vayichulu. <ref> S”A 473:1 </ref>

# If one forgot to say [[Havdalah]] in [[Kiddish]] one should finish the [[brachot]] of Gaal Yisrael at the end of [[Maggid]] and then say [[Havdalah]]. <ref> S”A 473:1 </ref>

# One shouldn't say [[Kiddish]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1, shu"t chazon ovadia 1. Rosh Pesachim 10:2 writes that the night of [[Pesach]] is special that we don't do the mitzvot before night even though by [[Shabbat]] and other [[Yom Tov]]im we hold that one can add from the weekdays to the [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. Thus, Tur writes that one shouldn't eat the meal before night night. Bet Yosef 472:1 quotes the Trumat hadeshen 137 that rules that even the [[Kiddish]] which is part of the four cups of [[the Seder]] must be done at night. This is also the opinion of S"A 472:1 that [[Kiddish]] and the rest of the mitzvot of the night need to be done during the night. The Taz 472:1 gives another reason the [[Kiddish]] must be done at night; because the [[Kiddish]] is done in order to eat the [[Matzah]] and have [[Kiddish]] BeMakom [[Seudah]], just like the [[Matzah]] has to be at night so too does the [[Kiddish]]. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 says that you don't need to wait until [[Tzet HaKochavim]] according to rabbeinu tam's calculation. </ref>

# the table should be set before one returns from shul so that he can begin immediately at tzet hakochvim. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1</ref>

# Even one learning in a Bet Medrash should stop to start the meal on time (at Tzet) so that the children will be awake to ask questions. <ref> Tur and S"A 472:1 based on Gemara Pesachim 109a</ref>

#If one forgot to make the [[Shehecheyanu]] during the [[Kiddish]]: some hold one can make it  anytime afterwards that day and if you remember on the second day of [[Yom Tov]] you should fulfill the obligation with the [[Shehecheyanu]] of that day's [[kiddish]] and if you forgot also then one can say it during the rest of [[peasch]], even if one remembers in the marketplace. However, some argue that one can only make the bracha until one says the bracha of Asher Galanu of the Magid because that fulfills one's requirement. <ref> The Magan Avraham 473:1 comments that one can make up the bracha of [[Shehecheyanu]] all the days of the [[peasch]] just like any other holiday and proves it from Eiruvin 40b which concludes that one can say [[Shehecheyanu]] all seven days. However, Sh"t Arugat HaBosem 144 argues that after you make the bracha on the haggadah of Asher Galanu one has fulfilled his obligation of [[Shehecheyanu]] because it includes the words "Vahigiyanu HaLaylah HaZeh". The Sh"t Siach Yitzchak and Chazon Ovadyah ([[Peasch]] vol 2 pg 29) rule like the Arugot HaBosem and bring a proof from the Orchot Chaim  who ask why do we say Vahigiyanu in Asher Galanu if we already said [[Shehecheyanu]] implying that Asher Galanu can fulfill the requirement of [[Shehecheyanu]]. Source Sheet: on [http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg37c33t_79fn8mhqht docs.google.com] </ref>

# If a woman already made [[Shehecheyanu]] during the candle lighting some say it's an interruption to answer [[amen]] unless one has in mind while lighting the candles that the [[Shehecheyanu]] should cover the [[Yom Tov]] but not the mitzvah of [[Matzah]] and [[Maror]]. However others hold it's not considered an interruption and the [[amen]] can be  answered. <ref>Rav Tzvi [[Pesach]] Frank in Sh"t Har Tzvi 1:154 quotes those who say that one shouldn't answer [[amen]] tothe [[Shehecheyanu]] since the woman already fulfill her obligation and it'd be an interruption between the Borei Pri HaGafen and drinking the cup (since there's an obligation of 4 cups even woman are obligated to drink after [[Kiddish]]). Rav Frank adds that lechatchila one should be careful not even to hear the bracha in the [[kiddish]] because just hearing it can be a [[Hefsek]]. Rav Vosner in Sh"t HaLevi 3:69 rules that an [[amen]] would be an interruption unless the [[Shehecheyanu]] was coming to fulfill some obligation. Therefore on [[Peasch]] where the [[Shehecheyanu]] is coming for the [[Matzah]], [[Maror]], and Sippur Yitziyat Mitzrayim, an [[amen]] isn't an interruption. Rav Ovadyah in Chazon Ovadyah ([[Peasch]] vol 2 pg 27) concurs. For this reason, Rabbi Eliezer Waldenberg in Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 10:19 is lenient that the woman is allowed to even make the bracha again. Rav Shlomo Zalman Aurbach in Sh"t Minchat Shlomo 2:60:24 argues that since [[Shehecheyanu]] is part of the established [[Kiddish]] it isn't an interruption at all to answer [[amen]]. Source Sheet: on [http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg37c33t_79fn8mhqht docs.google.com] </Ref>

# One should have in mind to fulfill the obligation of saying [[Shehecheyanu]] for the mitzvah of [[Matzah]], [[Maror]] and Sippur Yetziat Mitzrayim when saying [[Shehecheyanu]] in [[Kiddish]]. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah ([[Pesach]] vol. 2 pg 23) </ref>

==Drinking the first cup==

# One doesn’t need to wash one’s hands before [[Kiddish]]. If one’s hands aren’t clean one should wash one’s hands with a little water (without a bracha). <ref> Rama 473:1 </ref>

# In order to display an act of royalty, each person shouldn’t pour their own cup rather someone else should pour the wine for them. <ref> Rama 473:1 </ref>

# There is no [[Bracha Achrona]] on the first cup of wine. <ref> S”A 473:2 </ref>

# Before each part of [[the Seder]], it's customary to say or sing the order of [[the Seder]] (Kaddesh, [[Urchatz]], [[Karpas]]...) until the point that one is up to presently. <ref> http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display.asp?ClipID=233 </ref>