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# [[Kiddish]] of [[Yom Tov]] is made over the first cup of wine of [[the Seder]]. Therefore even though by [[Kiddish]] on Friday night one person can fulfill the obligation of everyone else by drinking the cup, on [[Pesach]] night there’s a separate obligation on everyone to drink [[the four cups of wine]]. <Ref>S”A 473:1 </ref>
# [[Kiddish]] of [[Yom Tov]] is made over the first cup of wine of [[the Seder]]. Therefore even though by [[Kiddish]] on Friday night one person can fulfill the obligation of everyone else by drinking the cup, on [[Pesach]] night there’s a separate obligation on everyone to drink [[the four cups of wine]]. <Ref>S”A 473:1 </ref>
# Women are also obligated in the mitzvah of four cups of wine because they were also part of the miracle. <Ref>Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 5. Pesachim 108b rules that everyone is obligated in [[the four cups of wine]] of [[the Seder]]. Rambam (Hilchot Chametz UMatzah 7:7) and S”A 472:15-16 rule that women are also obligated in the mitzvah. Source Sheet: on [http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg37c33t_79fn8mhqht docs.google.com]</ref>
# Women are also obligated in the mitzvah of four cups of wine because they were also part of the miracle. <Ref>Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 5. Pesachim 108b rules that everyone is obligated in [[the four cups of wine]] of [[the Seder]]. Rambam (Hilchot Chametz UMatzah 7:7) and S”A 472:15-16 rule that women are also obligated in the mitzvah. Source Sheet: on [http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg37c33t_79fn8mhqht docs.google.com]</ref>
# It's preferable to give the children who reached the age of [[Chinuch]] a cup for [[the four cups of wine]]. <ref> S"A 472:15 based on the Rosh. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 5- 6 says the age of [[chinuch]] for this is when the child can understand sippur yiztiat mitzrayim and says that this is the opinion in shulchan aruch harav 272:25. </ref>
# It's preferable to give the children who reached the age of [[Chinuch]] a cup for [[the four cups of wine]]. <ref> Shulchan Aruch 472:15 based on the Rosh. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 5- 6 says the age of [[chinuch]] for this is when the child can understand sippur yiztiat mitzrayim and says that this is the opinion in shulchan aruch harav 272:25. </ref>


==Sitting or standing for Kiddush==
==Sitting or standing for Kiddush==
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==Timing of Kaddesh==
==Timing of Kaddesh==
# One shouldn't say [[Kiddish]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1, shu"t chazon ovadia 1. Rosh Pesachim 10:2 writes that the night of [[Pesach]] is special that we don't do the mitzvot before night even though by [[Shabbat]] and other [[Yom Tov]]im we hold that one can add from the weekdays to the [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. Thus, Tur writes that one shouldn't eat the meal before night night. Bet Yosef 472:1 quotes the Trumat hadeshen 137 that rules that even the [[Kiddish]] which is part of the four cups of [[the Seder]] must be done at night. This is also the opinion of S"A 472:1 that [[Kiddish]] and the rest of the mitzvot of the night need to be done during the night. The Taz 472:1 gives another reason the [[Kiddish]] must be done at night; because the [[Kiddish]] is done in order to eat the [[Matzah]] and have [[Kiddish]] BeMakom [[Seudah]], just like the [[Matzah]] has to be at night so too does the [[Kiddish]]. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 says that you don't need to wait until [[Tzet HaKochavim]] according to rabbeinu tam's calculation. </ref>
# One shouldn't say [[Kiddish]] before [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1, shu"t chazon ovadia 1. Rosh Pesachim 10:2 writes that the night of [[Pesach]] is special that we don't do the mitzvot before night even though by [[Shabbat]] and other [[Yom Tov]]im we hold that one can add from the weekdays to the [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. Thus, Tur writes that one shouldn't eat the meal before night night. Bet Yosef 472:1 quotes the Trumat hadeshen 137 that rules that even the [[Kiddish]] which is part of the four cups of [[the Seder]] must be done at night. This is also the opinion of Shulchan Aruch 472:1 that [[Kiddish]] and the rest of the mitzvot of the night need to be done during the night. The Taz 472:1 gives another reason the [[Kiddish]] must be done at night; because the [[Kiddish]] is done in order to eat the [[Matzah]] and have [[Kiddish]] BeMakom [[Seudah]], just like the [[Matzah]] has to be at night so too does the [[Kiddish]]. Chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1 says that you don't need to wait until [[Tzet HaKochavim]] according to rabbeinu tam's calculation. </ref>
# the table should be set before one returns from shul so that he can begin immediately at tzet hakochvim. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1</ref>
# the table should be set before one returns from shul so that he can begin immediately at tzet hakochvim. <ref> chazon ovadia [[pesach]] page 1</ref>
# Even one learning in a Bet Medrash should stop to start the meal on time (at Tzet) so that the children will be awake to ask questions. <ref> Tur and S"A 472:1 based on Gemara Pesachim 109a</ref>
# Even one learning in a Bet Medrash should stop to start the meal on time (at Tzet) so that the children will be awake to ask questions. <ref> Tur and Shulchan Aruch 472:1 based on Gemara Pesachim 109a</ref>


== The [[Shehecheyanu]] of Kaddesh==
== The [[Shehecheyanu]] of Kaddesh==