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# One of the ingredients of licorice is flour, however, since the whole purpose of the flour is to make the ingredients stick, the Bracha is Shehakol. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 108, chapter 12) </ref>
# One of the ingredients of licorice is flour, however, since the whole purpose of the flour is to make the ingredients stick, the Bracha is Shehakol. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 108, chapter 12) </ref>
# If one of the ingredients of chopped-meat is flour or bread crumbs, however, since the whole purpose of the flour is to make the ingredients stick or to increase the volume of the meat, the Bracha is Shehakol. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 108, chapter 12), VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 67) </ref>
# If one of the ingredients of chopped-meat is flour or bread crumbs, however, since the whole purpose of the flour is to make the ingredients stick or to increase the volume of the meat, the Bracha is Shehakol. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 108, chapter 12), VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 67) </ref>
# Regarding cheesecake, if the cheese and crust are bake together many hold that cheesecake is mezonot, however, if the crust serves no purpose other than hold the cheese together the Bracha is Shehakol. However, some say that if there’s a thin crust added for appearance the Bracha is Shehakol and if there’s a thick crust added for taste the Bracha is Mezonot. <Ref>
* In Gemara Brachot 36b, Rav and Shmuel say that anything which has (flour from) the five grains is mezonot. (This is known the rule of Kol SheYesh Bo.) This is quoted by the Rif (Brachot 26a), Rosh (Brachot 6:7), and Rambam (Brachot 3:4) and codified by Tur and S"A 208:2.
* Tosfot 36b D”H Kol writes that if the flour is added in order to fill one up then the food is Mezonot, whereas if it’s added as a binding agent it’s not mezonot. Moreover, the Rashba (Brachot 36b D”H Duvsha) writes that if the flour is added in order to give a taste or make the food more fit for consumption the Bracha is Mezonot. This is quoted by the Bet Yosef 208:2 and codified as halacha by the Mishna Brurah 208:7. The Rambam (Brachot 3:6) writes that if the flour was added as a binding agent or only in order to impart a color or smell the food isn’t mezonot because of the flour.
* Vezot HaBracha (chap 11, pg 92) writes that if the cheese layer is baked together with the crust layer the Bracha is Mezonot based on Kol SheYesh Bo.
* Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, chap 7, pg 219) writes in general the crust is used to add flavor and if so the Bracha is Mezonot, however if the crust is only meant to hold the cheese the Bracha is Shehakol. The [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] agrees.
** The second clause is based on the following: S”A 168:8 and 212:2 rules that if one eats jam/marmalade on a cracker one should only make a Bracha on the marmalade and it exempts the cracker. Mishna Brurah 168:45 explains that in the case of S”A one was only eating the jam on the cracker so as not to dirty one’s hands. Then, he quotes the Magan Avraham 212:5 who writes that nowadays the crackers have a good taste and one should make Mezonot and exempt the jam. Mishna Brurah concludes by saying that it’s only one Bracha when it is baked together, however, if they’re baked separately it would require two Brachot.
* Laws of Brachos (chap 7, pg 219, note 48) writes his ruling that if the thin crust is added for it’s taste even if wouldn’t be eaten on it’s own, the Bracha should be mezonot is based on the Mishna Brurah 168:45 but feels that Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe 4:43 would disagree and hold that if one wouldn’t want to eat the crust on its own the Bracha is only Shehakol.
** Igrot Moshe 4:43 writes that for an ice cream sandwich one should make two Brachot, mezonot on the wafer and Shehakol on the ice cream and if one only wants the ice cream but only eats the wafer simply because it’s there the Bracha is Shehakol and it exempts the wafer. However, Laws of Brachos (chap 7, pg 217, note 40) argues that even if the crust is negligible the Bracha should be mezonot as long as it adds a taste.
* Halachos of Brachos (chap 4, pg 79) writes that in many cases the crust is only used to enhance the appearance of the cake and so the Bracha is Shehakol, however, if there is a thick layer he quotes Rav Moshe who says that the Bracha is Mezonot. </ref>
# If one eats an ice-cream in a cone and one’s intent is only to eat the ice-cream and the cone is only used to hold the ice-cream, one should only make a Shehakol. However, in the usual case where one eats the cone also for a taste, two Brachot are required. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 61), Vezot HaBracha (pg 390), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 4:43 </ref>
# If one eats an ice-cream in a cone and one’s intent is only to eat the ice-cream and the cone is only used to hold the ice-cream, one should only make a Shehakol. However, in the usual case where one eats the cone also for a taste, two Brachot are required. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 61), Vezot HaBracha (pg 390), Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 4:43 </ref>


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# For rice cakes with a peanut butter spread, the only Bracha needed is for the rice cakes (which is HaAdama). <Ref> Halachos of Brochos (pg 58, chapter 4, Rabbi Pinchas Bodner) </ref>
# For rice cakes with a peanut butter spread, the only Bracha needed is for the rice cakes (which is HaAdama). <Ref> Halachos of Brochos (pg 58, chapter 4, Rabbi Pinchas Bodner) </ref>
# In the usual case where one eats the cone also for a taste, two Brachot (mezonot and Shehakol) are required. However, if one eats an ice-cream in a cone and one’s intent is only to eat the ice-cream and the cone is only used to hold the ice-cream, one should only make a Shehakol. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 61), Vezot HaBracha (pg 390) </ref>
# In the usual case where one eats the cone also for a taste, two Brachot (mezonot and Shehakol) are required. However, if one eats an ice-cream in a cone and one’s intent is only to eat the ice-cream and the cone is only used to hold the ice-cream, one should only make a Shehakol. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 61), Vezot HaBracha (pg 390) </ref>
# If the cheese and crust are bake together, many hold that cheesecake is mezonot. However, some say that the bracha is Shehakol unless there’s a thick crust in which case the Bracha is Mezonot. <ref>
# Many authorities hold that cheese cake is Mezonot in the usual case where the cheese and crust are baked together. However, some say that the bracha is Shehakol unless there’s a thick crust in which case the Bracha is Mezonot. <ref>
* In Gemara Brachot 36b, Rav and Shmuel say that anything which has (flour from) the five grains is mezonot. This is codified by Tur and S"A 208:2. Therefore, Vezot HaBracha (chap 11, pg 92) rules that if the cheese layer is baked together with the crust layer the Bracha is Mezonot. Similarly, Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, chap 7, pg 219) writes in general the crust is used to add flavor and if so the Bracha is Mezonot, however if the crust is only meant to hold the cheese the Bracha is Shehakol. The [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] agrees.
* In Gemara Brachot 36b, Rav and Shmuel say that anything which has (flour from) the five grains is mezonot. (This is known the rule of Kol SheYesh Bo.) This is quoted by the Rif (Brachot 26a), Rosh (Brachot 6:7), and Rambam (Brachot 3:4) and codified by Tur and S"A 208:2.  
** The second clause is based on the following: S”A 168:8 and 212:2 rules that if one eats jam/marmalade on a cracker one should only make a Bracha on the marmalade and it exempts the cracker. Mishna Brurah 168:45 explains that in the case of S”A one was only eating the jam on the cracker so as not to dirty one’s hands.  
* Tosfot 36b D”H Kol writes that if the flour is added in order to fill one up then the food is Mezonot, whereas if it’s added as a binding agent it’s not mezonot. Moreover, the Rashba (Brachot 36b D”H Duvsha) writes that if the flour is added in order to give a taste or make the food more fit for consumption the Bracha is Mezonot. This is quoted by the Bet Yosef 208:2 and codified as halacha by the Mishna Brurah 208:7. The Rambam (Brachot 3:6) writes that if the flour was added as a binding agent or only in order to impart a color or smell the food isn’t mezonot because of the flour.
* However, Halachos of Brachos (Rabbi Bodner, chap 4, pg 79) argues that in many cases the crust is only used to enhance the appearance of the cake and so the Bracha is Shehakol, however, if there is a thick layer he quotes Rav Moshe who says that the Bracha is Mezonot. </ref>
* Vezot HaBracha (chap 11, pg 92) writes that if the cheese layer is baked together with the crust layer the Bracha is Mezonot based on Kol SheYesh Bo.  
* Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, chap 7, pg 219) writes in general the crust is used to add flavor and if so the Bracha is Mezonot, however if the crust is only meant to hold the cheese the Bracha is Shehakol. The [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] agrees.  
** The second clause is based on the following: S”A 168:8 and 212:2 rules that if one eats jam/marmalade on a cracker one should only make a Bracha on the marmalade and it exempts the cracker. Mishna Brurah 168:45 explains that in the case of S”A one was only eating the jam on the cracker so as not to dirty one’s hands. Then, he quotes the Magan Avraham 212:5 who writes that nowadays the crackers have a good taste and one should make Mezonot and exempt the jam. Mishna Brurah concludes by saying that it’s only one Bracha when it is baked together, however, if they’re baked separately it would require two Brachot.
* Laws of Brachos (chap 7, pg 219, note 48) writes his ruling that if the thin crust is added for it’s taste even if wouldn’t be eaten on it’s own, the Bracha should be mezonot is based on the Mishna Brurah 168:45 but feels that Rav Moshe in Igrot Moshe 4:43 would disagree and hold that if one wouldn’t want to eat the crust on its own the Bracha is only Shehakol.
** Igrot Moshe 4:43 writes that for an ice cream sandwich one should make two Brachot, mezonot on the wafer and Shehakol on the ice cream and if one only wants the ice cream but only eats the wafer simply because it’s there the Bracha is Shehakol and it exempts the wafer. However, Laws of Brachos (chap 7, pg 217, note 40) argues that even if the crust is negligible the Bracha should be mezonot as long as it adds a taste.
* Halachos of Brachos (chap 4, pg 79) writes that in many cases the crust is only used to enhance the appearance of the cake and so the Bracha is Shehakol, however, if there is a thick layer he quotes Rav Moshe who says that the Bracha is Mezonot. </ref>
# If a doughnut was dipped in coffee, the Bracha on the solid covers the absorbed liquids. There’s a minority opinion that the mezonot also covers the coffee in the cup and so it’s preferable to cover the coffee with another Shehakol, however, if it’s difficult one may make Shehakol on the coffee in the cup. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, chapter 4, pg 69) </ref>
# If a doughnut was dipped in coffee, the Bracha on the solid covers the absorbed liquids. There’s a minority opinion that the mezonot also covers the coffee in the cup and so it’s preferable to cover the coffee with another Shehakol, however, if it’s difficult one may make Shehakol on the coffee in the cup. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, chapter 4, pg 69) </ref>
# <span id="Shnitzel"></span> Fried chicken or fish (Shnetizel) with a thin batter coating is Shehakol, but if there’s a thick coating the Bracha is Mezonot, yet it's preferable to separate off a piece of coating and a piece of chicken and make Mezonot on the coating and Shehakol on the chicken. However, the Sephardic minhag is to make Shehakol in all cases. <Ref> <br>* Halachos of Brachos (Rabbi Bodner, chap 4, pg 79) quotes Rav Elyashiv that the Bracha would be Mezonot in all cases in opposition to Rav Moshe, Rav Yacov Kamenetsky, and Rav Sheinburg who said Shehakol if it was a thin crust. He also quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Sheinburg that if there's a thick coating that one should make Mezonot. In the Halachos of Brachos Handbook (pg 13 and 43) he rules like the second opinion that if there's a thin coating the bracha is Shehakol and if there's a thick coating the bracha is Mezonot. <br>* VeZot HaBracha (chap 12, pg 109) agrees that if there's a thin crust one should make Shehakol, however, he argues that if there's a thick coating one should separate a piece of the coating and a piece of the meat and make Mezonot on the coating and Shehakol on the meat. [See Vezot HaBracha (Birur 19(1), pg 261) where he seems to agree that if there's a thick coating the bracha would be Mezonot but because of controversy he suggests separating the coating and making two brachot.] <br>* However, Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, chap 218, pg 218) writes that it seems that the opinion who says that breaded cutlets are mezonot is correct, but one who wants to satisfy all opinions should make mezonot on a piece of crust and Shehakol on another food. <br>* Lastly, Yalkut Yosef (Brachot (vol 3), pg 426) writes that the bracha is Shehakol whether it is home made chicken cutlets or restaurant cutlets (where the coating is thicker). </ref>
# <span id="Shnitzel"></span> Fried chicken or fish (Shnetizel) with a thin batter coating is Shehakol, but if there’s a thick coating the Bracha is Mezonot, yet it's preferable to separate off a piece of coating and a piece of chicken and make Mezonot on the coating and Shehakol on the chicken. However, the Sephardic minhag is to make Shehakol in all cases. <Ref> <br>* Halachos of Brachos (Rabbi Bodner, chap 4, pg 79) quotes Rav Elyashiv that the Bracha would be Mezonot in all cases in opposition to Rav Moshe, Rav Yacov Kamenetsky, and Rav Sheinburg who said Shehakol if it was a thin crust. He also quotes Rav Moshe and Rav Sheinburg that if there's a thick coating that one should make Mezonot. In the Halachos of Brachos Handbook (pg 13 and 43) he rules like the second opinion that if there's a thin coating the bracha is Shehakol and if there's a thick coating the bracha is Mezonot. <br>* VeZot HaBracha (chap 12, pg 109) agrees that if there's a thin crust one should make Shehakol, however, he argues that if there's a thick coating one should separate a piece of the coating and a piece of the meat and make Mezonot on the coating and Shehakol on the meat. [See Vezot HaBracha (Birur 19(1), pg 261) where he seems to agree that if there's a thick coating the bracha would be Mezonot but because of controversy he suggests separating the coating and making two brachot.] <br>* However, Laws of Brachos (Rabbi Forst, chap 218, pg 218) writes that it seems that the opinion who says that breaded cutlets are mezonot is correct, but one who wants to satisfy all opinions should make mezonot on a piece of crust and Shehakol on another food. <br>* Lastly, Yalkut Yosef (Brachot (vol 3), pg 426) writes that the bracha is Shehakol whether it is home made chicken cutlets or restaurant cutlets (where the coating is thicker). </ref>
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