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# For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make Mezonot. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. So rules Vezot HaBracha (Luach Brachot pg 394) </ref> | # For, pie or strudel with fruit filling which was baked together, one should only make Mezonot. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 504, Handbook pg 70) writes that since the filling was baked together with the crust, they form one entity and deserves only one Bracha. So rules Vezot HaBracha (Luach Brachot pg 394) </ref> | ||
# For chulent (barley, beans, small pieces of meat and potato) the Bracha is Mezonot. If there’s no barley, and the majority is potatoes and beans, the Bracha is HaAdama, if the majority is rice, make Mezonot. If there’s no barley and the Chulent has the Bracha of HaAdama, if the kishka is eaten separately (not in the same forkful), it requires it’s own mezonot. However, if the pieces are large enough that they don’t come up together on same forkful, each component requires it’s own Bracha. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 65, 80, Handbook pg 28), Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 11, pg 392, Luach Brachot) </ref> | # For chulent (barley, beans, small pieces of meat and potato) the Bracha is Mezonot. If there’s no barley, and the majority is potatoes and beans, the Bracha is HaAdama, if the majority is rice, make Mezonot. If there’s no barley and the Chulent has the Bracha of HaAdama, if the kishka is eaten separately (not in the same forkful), it requires it’s own mezonot. However, if the pieces are large enough that they don’t come up together on same forkful, each component requires it’s own Bracha. <Ref> VeTen Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner, chapter 4, pg 65, 80, Handbook pg 28), Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 11, pg 392, Luach Brachot) </ref> | ||
# If one mixes carrot, peas, and couscous/farfel the Bracha is Mezonot since the mezonot is always considered Ikar. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 12) </ref> | # If one mixes carrot, peas, and couscous/farfel the Bracha is Mezonot since the mezonot is always considered Ikar. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 107, chapter 12) </ref> | ||
# For a fruit salad where the pieces are small enough that one spoonful includes more than one piece, is judged by majority. If there’s a majority of fruit that have the Bracha of HaEtz which is the usual case, the Bracha is HaEtz. However, if there’s a majority of fruits which are HaAdama (such as pineapple or strawberry), then the Bracha is HaAdama. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 93, chapter 11) </ref> However, the pieces are large enough that only one comes on the spoon or fork at a time, then each fruit requires it’s own Bracha. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 94, chapter 11) </ref> | # For a fruit salad where the pieces are small enough that one spoonful includes more than one piece, is judged by majority. If there’s a majority of fruit that have the Bracha of HaEtz which is the usual case, the Bracha is HaEtz. However, if there’s a majority of fruits which are HaAdama (such as pineapple or strawberry), then the Bracha is HaAdama. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 93, chapter 11) </ref> However, the pieces are large enough that only one comes on the spoon or fork at a time, then each fruit requires it’s own Bracha. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 94, chapter 11) </ref> | ||
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##If there’s left over milk, no new Bracha is needed. However, if a significant amount of leftover milk after finishing the cereal and one drinks the milk in a cup, then a new Bracha is needed. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 95, chapter 11) </ref> | ##If there’s left over milk, no new Bracha is needed. However, if a significant amount of leftover milk after finishing the cereal and one drinks the milk in a cup, then a new Bracha is needed. <ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 95, chapter 11) </ref> | ||
# Fruit cocktail is considered one mixture, if the majority is HaEtz fruits, then the Bracha is HaEtz, and if the majority is HaAdama fruit, the Bracha is HaAdama. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, chapter4, pg 62, Handbook pg 44) </ref> | # Fruit cocktail is considered one mixture, if the majority is HaEtz fruits, then the Bracha is HaEtz, and if the majority is HaAdama fruit, the Bracha is HaAdama. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, chapter4, pg 62, Handbook pg 44) </ref> | ||
'''Chicken chow mein''' | |||
# Chicken chow mein which is only made with chicken and vegetables is Shehakol if the chicken is the majority and HaAdama if the vegetables are the majority. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 212:1 writes that a mixture of two foods neither of which is mezonot and one isn’t coming to enhance the other the Bracha depends on the majority. Vezot HaBracha (pg 90), Halachos of Brachos (pg 68), and Laws of Brachos (pg 214) agree. Therefore, Laws of Brachos (pg 362) writes that if there’s no noodles (or rice) in the chicken chow mein then it depends on the majority, if there’s a majority of vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama if the majority is chicken the Bracha is Shehakol. </ref> | |||
# If chicken chow mein is made with chicken, vegetables, and noodles, if the noodles are mixed well with the other ingredients then the Bracha is Mezonot. However, if the noodles aren’t completely combined then the Bracha is Mezonot on the noodles and either HaAdama or Shehakol on the rest depending on the majority (see previous halacha). <Ref>Laws of Brachos (pg 362) writes if there are noodles in chicken chow mein the Bracha is Mezonot on the noodles, and Shehakol on the chow mein if it’s mostly chicken or HaAdama on the chow mein if it’s mostly vegetables. However, on pg 385 note 14 he qualifies that this is only the case when the noodles aren’t totally combines however if they are mixed in well then mezonot on the noodles exempts the other ingredients. Also, the [http://www.ou.org/publications/brachot/default.htm OU] writes simply that chow mein is mezonot. (Maybe they are assuming the noodles are mixed completely.) </ref> | |||
# If chicken chow mein is made with chicken, vegetables, and rice then one should make the Bracha on the majority item and exempt the other ingredients; if rice is the majority, say Mezonot, if vegetables are the majority say HaAdama, and if chicken is the majority say Shehakol. <ref>Aruch HaShulchan 212:2 writes that for two different foods to be considered a single mixture they must be eaten together on a single spoonful. This is quoted by Laws of Brachos (pg 208), Halachos of Brachos (pg 64), and a similar statement is found in Vezot HaBracha (pg 91). Halachos of Brachos Handbook (Rabbi Bodner, pg 24) writes that chicken chow mein which is made with rice, chicken, and vegetables because it is usually eaten on the same forkful has one Bracha which depends on what is the majority, if it’s rice, the Bracha is Mezonot, if it’s chicken, Bracha is Shehakol, and if it’s vegetables the Bracha is HaAdama. [In general, Vezot HaBracha (pg 94) writes that if there’s no majority because there are three foods with different Brachot, then each food requires its own Bracha.] </ref> | |||
==Soup== | ==Soup== | ||
===Soup nuts, noodles, or dumplings=== | ===Soup nuts, noodles, or dumplings=== | ||
