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## Rav Moshe Feinstein holds that only if there are 600,000 people within an area that is 12x12 mil is it a reshut harabbim.<ref>Igrot Moshe 1:139, 4:87. Yetziyot Hashabbat siman 3 p. 59 quotes Rav Elyashiv as disagreeing with this chiddush that 600,000 depends on the city and not 12 mil. On p. 65 he quotes that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach also disagreed with that position of Rav Moshe.</ref> | ## Rav Moshe Feinstein holds that only if there are 600,000 people within an area that is 12x12 mil is it a reshut harabbim.<ref>Igrot Moshe 1:139, 4:87. Yetziyot Hashabbat siman 3 p. 59 quotes Rav Elyashiv as disagreeing with this chiddush that 600,000 depends on the city and not 12 mil. On p. 65 he quotes that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach also disagreed with that position of Rav Moshe.</ref> | ||
#Over what period of time is 600,000 calculated? | #Over what period of time is 600,000 calculated? | ||
##Some achronim maintain that unless the 600,000 people are present over the course of one 24 hour day it is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>The simple language of Shulchan Aruch O.C. 345:7 indicates that this view maintains that there must be a presence of 600,000 every day. Mishna Brurah 345:24 challenges this because none of the rishonim who support this view mention that 600,000 must pass there every day. [https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.345.40.1?vhe=Kaf_Hachayim,_Orach_Chayim_vol._I-IV,_Jerusalem_1910-1933&lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 345:40] quotes the Levush and Shulchan Aruch Harav who accept Shulchan Aruch simply. Igrot Moshe 1:139 and 4:87 (and Mesoret Moshe v. 1 p. 127) in his own way also accepts this concept that the 600,000 are present in one day. However, [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1095&st=&pgnum=133 Mishkenot Yakov 121 s.v. v'od] rejects this possibility in understanding Rashi. Bet Efraim 26 also veers from the simple understanding of one day.</ref> | ##Some achronim maintain that unless the 600,000 people are present over the course of one 24 hour day it is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>The simple language of Shulchan Aruch O.C. 345:7 indicates that this view maintains that there must be a presence of 600,000 every day. Mishna Brurah 345:24 challenges this because none of the rishonim who support this view mention that 600,000 must pass there every day. [https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.345.40.1?vhe=Kaf_Hachayim,_Orach_Chayim_vol._I-IV,_Jerusalem_1910-1933&lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 345:40] quotes the Levush and Shulchan Aruch Harav who accept Shulchan Aruch simply. Rav Elyashiv (Haarot Shabbat 6b) relied on the opinion that if there isn’t 600,000 every day it isn’t a reshut harabbim to allow an eruv in Yerushalayim today where there is 600,000. Igrot Moshe 1:139 and 4:87 (and Mesoret Moshe v. 1 p. 127) in his own way also accepts this concept that the 600,000 are present in one day. However, [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1095&st=&pgnum=133 Mishkenot Yakov 121 s.v. v'od] rejects this possibility in understanding Rashi. Bet Efraim 26 also veers from the simple understanding of one day.</ref> | ||
##Some achronim restrict this even further and maintain that unless the 600,000 are present for most of the hours of the day during which there is regular daytime activity, it isn't a reshut harabbim.<Ref>Igrot Moshe OC 4:87</ref> | ##Some achronim restrict this even further and maintain that unless the 600,000 are present for most of the hours of the day during which there is regular daytime activity, it isn't a reshut harabbim.<Ref>Igrot Moshe OC 4:87</ref> | ||
##Some achronim argue that 600,000 need to be present over a long period of time, such as a year, in order to be a reshut harabbim.<ref>Bet Efraim 26</ref> | ##Some achronim argue that 600,000 need to be present over a long period of time, such as a year, in order to be a reshut harabbim.<ref>Bet Efraim 26</ref> | ||
