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* [https://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2011/07/rav-moshe-feinstein-ztl-new-discovery.html Some say] that this is also the view of Rav Moshe Feinstein. However, from Igrot Moshe 4:88 and 5:28:1 this seems incorrect. He writes there that one cannot make an eruv even in section of Brooklyn since within a 12x12 mil of that area there is 600,000 people.</ref> | * [https://eruvonline.blogspot.com/2011/07/rav-moshe-feinstein-ztl-new-discovery.html Some say] that this is also the view of Rav Moshe Feinstein. However, from Igrot Moshe 4:88 and 5:28:1 this seems incorrect. He writes there that one cannot make an eruv even in section of Brooklyn since within a 12x12 mil of that area there is 600,000 people.</ref> | ||
## Some achronim hold that only if there are 600,000 people on a single street that street is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>Arichat Shulchan Halevi n. 4 proves from Bet Meir 5b s.v. bishlama that shishim ribo is judged by every street individually.</ref> | ## Some achronim hold that only if there are 600,000 people on a single street that street is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>Arichat Shulchan Halevi n. 4 proves from Bet Meir 5b s.v. bishlama that shishim ribo is judged by every street individually.</ref> | ||
## Rav Moshe Feinstein holds that only if there are 600,000 people within an area that is 12x12 mil is it a reshut harabbim.<ref>Igrot Moshe 1:139, 4:87</ref> | ## Rav Moshe Feinstein holds that only if there are 600,000 people within an area that is 12x12 mil is it a reshut harabbim.<ref>Igrot Moshe 1:139, 4:87. Yetziyot Hashabbat siman 3 p. 59 quotes Rav Elyashiv as disagreeing with this chiddush that 600,000 depends on the city and not 12 mil.</ref> | ||
#Over what period of time is 600,000 calculated? | #Over what period of time is 600,000 calculated? | ||
##Some achronim maintain that unless the 600,000 people are present over the course of one 24 hour day it is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>The simple language of Shulchan Aruch O.C. 345:7 indicates that this view maintains that there must be a presence of 600,000 every day. Mishna Brurah 345:24 challenges this because none of the rishonim who support this view mention that 600,000 must pass there every day. [https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.345.40.1?vhe=Kaf_Hachayim,_Orach_Chayim_vol._I-IV,_Jerusalem_1910-1933&lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 345:40] quotes the Levush and Shulchan Aruch Harav who accept Shulchan Aruch simply. Igrot Moshe 1:139 and 4:87 (and Mesoret Moshe v. 1 p. 127) in his own way also accepts this concept that the 600,000 are present in one day. However, [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1095&st=&pgnum=133 Mishkenot Yakov 121 s.v. v'od] rejects this possibility in understanding Rashi. Bet Efraim 26 also veers from the simple understanding of one day.</ref> | ##Some achronim maintain that unless the 600,000 people are present over the course of one 24 hour day it is not a reshut harabbim.<ref>The simple language of Shulchan Aruch O.C. 345:7 indicates that this view maintains that there must be a presence of 600,000 every day. Mishna Brurah 345:24 challenges this because none of the rishonim who support this view mention that 600,000 must pass there every day. [https://www.sefaria.org/Kaf_HaChayim_on_Shulchan_Arukh%2C_Orach_Chayim.345.40.1?vhe=Kaf_Hachayim,_Orach_Chayim_vol._I-IV,_Jerusalem_1910-1933&lang=bi Kaf Hachaim 345:40] quotes the Levush and Shulchan Aruch Harav who accept Shulchan Aruch simply. Igrot Moshe 1:139 and 4:87 (and Mesoret Moshe v. 1 p. 127) in his own way also accepts this concept that the 600,000 are present in one day. However, [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1095&st=&pgnum=133 Mishkenot Yakov 121 s.v. v'od] rejects this possibility in understanding Rashi. Bet Efraim 26 also veers from the simple understanding of one day.</ref> | ||
