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#One may not carry in a planted area that is larger than a bet satayim and it forbids carrying in the whole eruv. Whether it applies to our cities is a discussion.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=686&pgnum=174 Dvar Shmuel 259] writes that a garden in a city is not considered a karpef to forbid carrying in the city. He has 3 reasons: 1) Plants only make the area where they're planted forbidden if they're planted in a karpef, storage area for wood, but not in a city. A city which has a lot of people dwelling there, isn't nullified by a relatively small area of plants. 2) The plants which are made for temporary purposes isn't a karpef. Also, an area set aside for protection of the city isn't a karpef since it is meant to function as part of the city. 3) Making an eruv chatzerot permits a karpef.</ref> | #One may not carry in a planted area that is larger than a bet satayim and it forbids carrying in the whole eruv. Whether it applies to our cities is a discussion.<ref>[https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=686&pgnum=174 Dvar Shmuel 259] writes that a garden in a city is not considered a karpef to forbid carrying in the city. He has 3 reasons: 1) Plants only make the area where they're planted forbidden if they're planted in a karpef, storage area for wood, but not in a city. A city which has a lot of people dwelling there, isn't nullified by a relatively small area of plants. 2) The plants which are made for temporary purposes isn't a karpef. Also, an area set aside for protection of the city isn't a karpef since it is meant to function as part of the city. 3) Making an eruv chatzerot permits a karpef. Chacham Tzvi 59 writes that although originally he disagreed with the Dvar Shmuel, later he defended it based on Rosh (Eruvin 2:2). Rosh isn't sure if the concept that plants nullify area of dirah, dwelling, is only true in a karpef or even in a chetzer. Also, perhaps even plants nullify dirah in a chetzer it wouldn't in a city. Biur Halacha 358:9 s.v. aval has difficulty with this Dvar Shmuel, though he seems like he agrees that it is an opinion to rely on in extenuating circumstance. Kaf Hachaim 358:84 quotes Maamer Mordechai who is strict, but also infers from Chida (Machzik Bracha 358:2) that he is lenient. See, however, Chida in [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=7733&st=&pgnum=39 Shiurei Bracha 358:1] who seems to have retracted and is strict.</ref> | ||
==Defining the act of carrying== | ==Defining the act of carrying== | ||
