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# Havinenu takes the place of [[Shemoneh Esrei]] and when one is no longer in an extenuating circumstance one doesn’t have to repeat [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. <ref>Tur and S”A 110:1 </ref> | # Havinenu takes the place of [[Shemoneh Esrei]] and when one is no longer in an extenuating circumstance one doesn’t have to repeat [[Shemoneh Esrei]]. <ref>Tur and S”A 110:1 </ref> | ||
==When Havinenu could be said== | ==When Havinenu could be said== | ||
# One may not say Havinenu during the winter (from Dec 4, outside Israel, or 7th of Cheshvan in Israel, until the second day of [[Pesach]]) nor on Motzei [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. <ref> | # One may not say Havinenu during the winter (from Dec 4, outside [[Israel]], or 7th of Cheshvan in [[Israel]], until the second day of [[Pesach]]) nor on Motzei [[Shabbat]] or [[Yom Tov]]. <ref> | ||
* In Gemara [[Brachot]] 29a, Rav Nachman in the name of Shmuel says that on Motzei [[Shabbat]] one may not say Havinenu because one has to add in the paragraph of [[Atta Chonantanu]] and that wasn’t instituted into the paragraph of Havinenu. Mar Zutra asks why one isn’t able to add a few words into Havinenu to represent the idea of Atta Choanantanu. The Gemara leaves it as a question. | * In Gemara [[Brachot]] 29a, Rav Nachman in the name of Shmuel says that on Motzei [[Shabbat]] one may not say Havinenu because one has to add in the paragraph of [[Atta Chonantanu]] and that wasn’t instituted into the paragraph of Havinenu. Mar Zutra asks why one isn’t able to add a few words into Havinenu to represent the idea of Atta Choanantanu. The Gemara leaves it as a question. | ||
* The Rabbenu Yonah ([[Brachot]] 19a s.v. Mipnei) writes that even though the Gemara left it as a question it’s not a rejection and we indeed hold like Shmuel and perhaps one could answer that had we added a few words to represent [[Atta Chonantanu]] people would have come to think mistakenly that [[Atta Chonantanu]] is considered a Bracha by itself. The Rif 19a, Rosh 4:13, Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 2:4), Rashba ([[Brachot]] 29a s.v. Matkif) in name of Rav Hai Goan, and the Tur rule like Shmuel against the Rashba (his own opinion) and the Ri Ben Gayit (quoted in the Bet Yosef 110:1) who ruled like Mar Zutra. The S”A 110:1 codifies the halacha like Shmuel that one may not say Havinenu on Motzei [[Shabbat]]. | * The Rabbenu Yonah ([[Brachot]] 19a s.v. Mipnei) writes that even though the Gemara left it as a question it’s not a rejection and we indeed hold like Shmuel and perhaps one could answer that had we added a few words to represent [[Atta Chonantanu]] people would have come to think mistakenly that [[Atta Chonantanu]] is considered a Bracha by itself. The Rif 19a, Rosh 4:13, Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 2:4), Rashba ([[Brachot]] 29a s.v. Matkif) in name of Rav Hai Goan, and the Tur rule like Shmuel against the Rashba (his own opinion) and the Ri Ben Gayit (quoted in the Bet Yosef 110:1) who ruled like Mar Zutra. The S”A 110:1 codifies the halacha like Shmuel that one may not say Havinenu on Motzei [[Shabbat]]. | ||
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