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#A person needs to be able to benefit from the fire in order to recite the bracha over it. Therefore, some turn off the electric lights when making Havdalah,<ref>Rivevot Efraim 2:115:32 citing Teshuvot Vehanhagot 6:90</ref> but others hold that the strict halacha doesn't require turning off the lights.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 2 p. 439, Yalkut Yosef 298:10 Shabbat v. 1 p. 477. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=64191 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Matot Masei 5778 min 49)] said that the strict halacha doesn't require a person to turn off the electric lights since if all that is required is that if the lights were to be off it would be possible to benefit from the candle and see the difference between coins which is possible from a distance.</ref>
#A person needs to be able to benefit from the fire in order to recite the bracha over it. Therefore, some turn off the electric lights when making Havdalah,<ref>Rivevot Efraim 2:115:32 citing Teshuvot Vehanhagot 6:90</ref> but others hold that the strict halacha doesn't require turning off the lights.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Shabbat v. 2 p. 439, Yalkut Yosef 298:10 Shabbat v. 1 p. 477. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=64191 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Matot Masei 5778 min 49)] said that the strict halacha doesn't require a person to turn off the electric lights since if all that is required is that if the lights were to be off it would be possible to benefit from the candle and see the difference between coins which is possible from a distance.</ref>
#Some poskim allow one to use an electric light in place of a Havdala candle in a time of need.<ref>Shaarim Metzuyanim Behalachah 96:6, Az Nidberu 8:2, Rivevot Ephraim 3:599. see also Mishpitei Uziel OC 1:9 </ref>  In fact, it is reported that Rabbi Chaim Ozer Grodzinsky would always use an electric bulb for Havdala in order to demonstrate how strongly he felt that electricity is to be treated exactly like fire from the perspective of halacha.<ref>Shaarim Metzuyanim Behalachah 96:6. Sh"t Nachalat Shimon 15 says this was the practice of Rav Chaim Soloveitchik </ref>
#Some poskim allow one to use an electric light in place of a Havdala candle in a time of need.<ref>Shaarim Metzuyanim Behalachah 96:6, Az Nidberu 8:2, Rivevot Ephraim 3:599. see also Mishpitei Uziel OC 1:9 </ref>  In fact, it is reported that Rabbi Chaim Ozer Grodzinsky would always use an electric bulb for Havdala in order to demonstrate how strongly he felt that electricity is to be treated exactly like fire from the perspective of halacha.<ref>Shaarim Metzuyanim Behalachah 96:6. Sh"t Nachalat Shimon 15 says this was the practice of Rav Chaim Soloveitchik </ref>
#Nevertheless, there are those authorities who discourage the use of an electric light for Havdala. Among their opposition to is the fact that the blessing recited upon the Havdala candle includes the word "fire" which seems to imply the need for actual fire, not merely light. As such a light bulb would not be acceptable according to this view.<ref>Har Tzvi 2:114, Sh"t Yechave Daat 2:39, Maharshag 2:107, Kitzur S"A of Rabbi Raphael Baruch Toledano pg. 323 </ref>  Even among the authorities who permit the use of electric lighting when needed many would disqualify the use of fluorescent bulbs as they work differently than standard light bulbs.<ref>Hachashmal L’or Hahalacha 3:88 </ref>
#Nevertheless, there are those authorities who discourage the use of an electric light for Havdala. Among their opposition to is the fact that the blessing recited upon the Havdala candle includes the word "fire" which seems to imply the need for actual fire, not merely light. As such a light bulb would not be acceptable according to this view.<ref>Har Tzvi 2:114, Sh"t Yechave Daat 2:39, Maharshag 2:107, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch of Rabbi Raphael Baruch Toledano pg. 323 </ref>  Even among the authorities who permit the use of electric lighting when needed many would disqualify the use of fluorescent bulbs as they work differently than standard light bulbs.<ref>Hachashmal L’or Hahalacha 3:88 </ref>


==Saying Havdalah Early==
==Saying Havdalah Early==
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#Before one says Havdalah, one may not doing any Melacha. If one made Havdalah in [[Tefillah]], one may do Melacha. If one needs to do Melacha before saying Havdalah in [[Tefillah]], one should say "HaMavdil Ben Kodesh LeChol" (which is not a bracha) and then do Melacha.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 299:10. Rav Schachter (Eretz HaTzvi p. 57) permits preparing the wine for Havdalah because [[Hachana]] isn’t considered a Melacha and may be done after [[Shabbat]] before Havdalah. </ref>
#Before one says Havdalah, one may not doing any Melacha. If one made Havdalah in [[Tefillah]], one may do Melacha. If one needs to do Melacha before saying Havdalah in [[Tefillah]], one should say "HaMavdil Ben Kodesh LeChol" (which is not a bracha) and then do Melacha.<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 299:10. Rav Schachter (Eretz HaTzvi p. 57) permits preparing the wine for Havdalah because [[Hachana]] isn’t considered a Melacha and may be done after [[Shabbat]] before Havdalah. </ref>
#One shouldn't say "Baruch hamavdil ben kodesh lechol" in a bathroom.<ref>Avnei Yishpeh 6:10:1 writes that one shouldn't say hamavdil ben kodesh lechol in a bathroom since it is doing a mitzvah and similar to divrei kedusha. Dor Hamelaktim v. 2 p. 1072 quotes this from Rav Chaim Kanievsky as well. However, it quotes Minchat Shabbat who permits it.</ref> If one needs to, one should say "Hamavdil ben kodesh lchol" without the word baruch.<ref>Rav Shmuel Kamenetsky (Kovetz Halachot Shabbat v. 1 p. 779)</ref>
# One may not eat until one made Havdalah over a cup of wine.<ref>Mishna Brurah 299:1</ref> This prohibition begins from after sunset even though it is halachically twilight.<ref>Magen Avraham 299:1, Mishna Brurah 299:1 unlike Taz 299:1 who allows eating during ben hashemashot.</ref>
# One may not eat until one made Havdalah over a cup of wine.<ref>Mishna Brurah 299:1</ref> This prohibition begins from after sunset even though it is halachically twilight.<ref>Magen Avraham 299:1, Mishna Brurah 299:1 unlike Taz 299:1 who allows eating during ben hashemashot.</ref>
#It is permissible to use a non-religious Jewish taxi driver on [[Motzei Shabbat]] even though the taxi-driver didn't make Havdalah.<ref>Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 12:37 writes that saying "Have a good week" does not fulfill the mitzvah of Havdalah. Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 11:34 and 12:38 writes that there's no an issue of asking an non-religious Jew to do work for him after [[Shabbat]] since they aren't going to say Havdalah anyway, the prohibition not to do work before Havdalah doesn't set in. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=308 Rabbi Mansour on dailyhalacha.com] explains this ruling. See also [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/735734/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Taking_a_Taxi_in_Israel_on_Motzai_Shabbos Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz on yutorah.org].</ref>
#It is permissible to use a non-religious Jewish taxi driver on [[Motzei Shabbat]] even though the taxi-driver didn't make Havdalah.<ref>Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 12:37 writes that saying "Have a good week" does not fulfill the mitzvah of Havdalah. Sh"t Tzitz Eliezer 11:34 and 12:38 writes that there's no an issue of asking an non-religious Jew to do work for him after [[Shabbat]] since they aren't going to say Havdalah anyway, the prohibition not to do work before Havdalah doesn't set in. [http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=308 Rabbi Mansour on dailyhalacha.com] explains this ruling. See also [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/735734/Rabbi_Aryeh_Lebowitz/Taking_a_Taxi_in_Israel_on_Motzai_Shabbos Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz on yutorah.org].</ref>
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