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* Rabbenu Manoach (cited by Kesef Mishna Kriyat Shema 3:3) asks why it is permitted to say a bracha in a mikveh room since it should be similar to a bathhouse where it is forbidden to make a bracha in the inner room where people bathe. He answers that one can't recite a bracha in a bathhouse because it is hot with steam and sweat but the mikveh is cold. The Taz OC 84:2 quotes Rabbenu Manoach and adds that he considers the mikveh only like the middle room of a bathhouse but still it is only permitted to say the bracha for going to the mikveh since that is necessary and there's no other option. Magen Avraham 45:2 and Eliya Rabba 84:1 also cite Rabbenu Manoach. The implication of Rabbenu Manoach is that if the mikveh was hot then it would be like a bathhouse and it would be forbidden to recite a bracha in the room. | * Rabbenu Manoach (cited by Kesef Mishna Kriyat Shema 3:3) asks why it is permitted to say a bracha in a mikveh room since it should be similar to a bathhouse where it is forbidden to make a bracha in the inner room where people bathe. He answers that one can't recite a bracha in a bathhouse because it is hot with steam and sweat but the mikveh is cold. The Taz OC 84:2 quotes Rabbenu Manoach and adds that he considers the mikveh only like the middle room of a bathhouse but still it is only permitted to say the bracha for going to the mikveh since that is necessary and there's no other option. Magen Avraham 45:2 and Eliya Rabba 84:1 also cite Rabbenu Manoach. The implication of Rabbenu Manoach is that if the mikveh was hot then it would be like a bathhouse and it would be forbidden to recite a bracha in the room. | ||
* Chatom Sofer OC 18 writes that if the mikveh is hot one can’t make the bracha in the mikveh or the room. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1494&pgnum=119 Maharam Shik OC 162] wrote that the punctilious women make the bracha outside the mikveh room like the Chatom Sofer wrote. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Yabia Omer YD 2:14 and Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 202 agrees. There he cites a handwritten teshuva of Rav Yakov Sofer as holding that it was forbidden to recite the bracha in the mikveh room. (The Yavetz in Mor Ukesiah 84:1 writes that the woman should always recite the bracha outside the room of the mikveh even if it isn’t hot.) | * Chatom Sofer OC 18 writes that if the mikveh is hot one can’t make the bracha in the mikveh or the room. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1494&pgnum=119 Maharam Shik OC 162] wrote that the punctilious women make the bracha outside the mikveh room like the Chatom Sofer wrote. Rav Ovadia Yosef in Yabia Omer YD 2:14 and Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 202 agrees. There he cites a handwritten teshuva of Rav Yakov Sofer as holding that it was forbidden to recite the bracha in the mikveh room. (The Yavetz in Mor Ukesiah 84:1 writes that the woman should always recite the bracha outside the room of the mikveh even if it isn’t hot.) | ||
* Pri Megadim E”A 45:2 writes that even the hot mikveh’s aren’t so hot and aren’t like a bathhouse and so it is permitted to make a bracha in the room. Mishna Brurah 84:4 quotes the Pri Megadim as a possibility and in 45:5 he leaves it unresolved. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1485&pgnum=540 Teshuvat Shay 2:96] writes that the minhag relies on the Pri Megadim. Aruch Hashulchan OC 84:2 and Tzitz Eliezer 6:25 agree. Shiurei Shevet Halevi 200:8 (cited by Dirshu 84:6) writes that the minhag is acceptable but should only be relied on for the bracha of tevilah and not other brachot even tevilat kelim. Rav Elyashiv ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46226&st=&pgnum=248 Mishmeret Hatahara 2:17:15]) explained that it is permitted to recite the bracha in the mikveh if the mikveh is only lukewarm (poshrim) and not actually hot.</ref> | * Pri Megadim E”A 45:2 writes that even the hot mikveh’s aren’t so hot and aren’t like a bathhouse and so it is permitted to make a bracha in the room. Mishna Brurah 84:4 quotes the Pri Megadim as a possibility and in 45:5 he leaves it unresolved. [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=1485&pgnum=540 Teshuvat Shay 2:96] writes that the minhag relies on the Pri Megadim. Aruch Hashulchan OC 84:2 and Tzitz Eliezer 6:25 agree. Shiurei Shevet Halevi 200:8 (cited by Dirshu 84:6) writes that the minhag is acceptable but should only be relied on for the bracha of tevilah and not other brachot even tevilat kelim. Rav Elyashiv ([http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=46226&st=&pgnum=248 Mishmeret Hatahara 2:17:15]) explained that it is permitted to recite the bracha in the mikveh if the mikveh is only lukewarm (heb. פושרים; trans. poshrim) and not actually hot.</ref> | ||
# According to those that it is forbidden to recite the bracha in the mikveh room it is forbidden to recite other prayers there or even think Torah there.<ref>Taharat Habayit v. 3 p. 232, 236</ref> | |||
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