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===Creating a Disgusting Situation Initially=== | ===Creating a Disgusting Situation Initially=== | ||
# In the first place, one may not make a situation which is disgusting which will need to be removed, however after the fact, the disgusting item may be removed. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 308:36 writes that one should make a disgusting object in order to remove it from the house, and Mishna Brurah 308:139 explains that one shouldn’t make a disgusting item (which will need to be removed) irrelevant of one’s intent. </ref> | # In the first place, one may not make a situation which is disgusting which will need to be removed, however after the fact, the disgusting item may be removed. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 308:36 writes that one should make a disgusting object in order to remove it from the house, and Mishna Brurah 308:139 explains that one shouldn’t make a disgusting item (which will need to be removed) irrelevant of one’s intent. </ref> | ||
# If there is a leak of dirty water (such as from | # If there is a leak of dirty water (such as from an air conditioner<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 183</ref>) that isn't drinkable for humans or animals one shouldn't put a bucket under that leak since it is considered establishing a utensil in one spot ([[bitul kli mehechano]]) and will only be permitted because of graf shel reey.<ref> The Rambam Shabbat 25:24 writes that one may not place a bucket underneath a leak of dirty water on Shabbat since doing so relies on the leniency of graf shel reey. Bet Yosef 308:8 explains that the Ran Beitzah 20a adds that putting a bucket under the dirty water is bitul kli mhechano and only permitted if you rely on graf shel reey. But you can't construct a circumstance where you need to rely on graf shel reey initially. | ||
* However, the Tur disagrees with the Rambam that it is permitted to place a bucket under the water. The Back 338:6 explains that it is permitted since one is only doing so to avoid my house from getting dirty with dirty water on the floor. Therefore it isn't considered creating a graf shel reey initially. Taz 338:4 explains that the Tur holds that it isn't creating a a graf shel reey since the situation of a leek already existed.</ref> | * However, the Tur disagrees with the Rambam that it is permitted to place a bucket under the water. The Back 338:6 explains that it is permitted since one is only doing so to avoid my house from getting dirty with dirty water on the floor. Therefore it isn't considered creating a graf shel reey initially. Taz 338:4 explains that the Tur holds that it isn't creating a a graf shel reey since the situation of a leek already existed.</ref> If it is a room where you are dwelling and it will be unpleasant in a case of great need there is a leniency to put the bucket to collect water.<ref>Chaye Adam 67:26, Biur Halacha 338:8</ref> | ||
# One could solve the issue by putting non-muktzeh such as toys in the bucket before putting underneath the leak.<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. | # One could solve the issue by putting non-muktzeh such as toys in the bucket before putting underneath the leak.<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 182</ref> | ||
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