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===Creating a Disgusting Situation Initially=== | ===Creating a Disgusting Situation Initially=== | ||
# In the first place, one may not make a situation which is disgusting which will need to be removed, however after the fact, the disgusting item may be removed. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 308:36 writes that one should make a disgusting object in order to remove it from the house, and Mishna Brurah 308:139 explains that one shouldn’t make a disgusting item (which will need to be removed) irrelevant of one’s intent. </ref> | # In the first place, one may not make a situation which is disgusting which will need to be removed, however after the fact, the disgusting item may be removed. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch 308:36 writes that one should make a disgusting object in order to remove it from the house, and Mishna Brurah 308:139 explains that one shouldn’t make a disgusting item (which will need to be removed) irrelevant of one’s intent. </ref> | ||
# If there is a leak of dirty water (such as from a air conditioner<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 181</ref>) that isn't drinkable for humans or animals one shouldn't put a bucket under that leak since it is considered establishing a utensil in one spot ([[bitul kli mehechano]]) and will only be permitted because of graf shel reey.<ref> The Rambam Shabbat 25:24 writes that one may not place a bucket underneath a leak of dirty water on Shabbat since doing so relies on the leniency of graf shel reey. Bet Yosef 308:8 explains that the Ran Beitzah 20a adds that putting a bucket under the dirty water is bitul kli mhechano and only permitted if you rely on graf shel reey. But you can't construct a circumstance where you need to rely on graf shel reey initially. | |||
* However, the Tur disagrees with the Rambam that it is permitted to place a bucket under the water. The Back 338:6 explains that it is permitted since one is only doing so to avoid my house from getting dirty with dirty water on the floor. Therefore it isn't considered creating a graf shel reey initially. Taz 338:4 explains that the Tur holds that it isn't creating a a graf shel reey since the situation of a leek already existed.</ref> In a case of great need there is a leniency.<ref>Chaye Adam 67:26, Biur Halacha 338:8</ref> | |||
# One could solve the issue by putting non-muktzeh such as toys in the bucket before putting underneath the leak.<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 181</ref> | |||
===Potty=== | ===Potty=== | ||
# A container for going to the bathroom such as a child’s potty is muktzeh after the goes to the bathroom in it. It can be emptied out because it is disgusting but it can’t be returned unless some water is placed in it.<ref>Beitzah 36b, Shulchan Aruch 308:35. Bet Yosef 308:35 cites the Mahari Avuhav who was bothered how adding water helps since placing something permitted on something muktzeh doesn’t help except for a corpse. Mishna Brurah 308:135 explains that the container for waste is muktzeh like a rock since it can’t be used for anything while it is disgusting. Chazon Ish 48:10 argues that the entire concept of placing in water is a unique gezerah and has nothing to do with muktzeh.</ref> | # A container for going to the bathroom such as a child’s potty is muktzeh after the goes to the bathroom in it. It can be emptied out because it is disgusting but it can’t be returned unless some water is placed in it.<ref>Beitzah 36b, Shulchan Aruch 308:35. Bet Yosef 308:35 cites the Mahari Avuhav who was bothered how adding water helps since placing something permitted on something muktzeh doesn’t help except for a corpse. Mishna Brurah 308:135 explains that the container for waste is muktzeh like a rock since it can’t be used for anything while it is disgusting. Chazon Ish 48:10 argues that the entire concept of placing in water is a unique gezerah and has nothing to do with muktzeh.</ref> | ||
