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#A rabbi should see shaylot of whether something is kosher in a place where he could drop if it he needs to rule that it is forbidden.<ref>Orchot shabbat v. 3 p. 330 discusses this at length. He cites the Chok Yakov who says that for chametz shaylot you should take it to a specific room that you could drop it if you ruled it was chametz. His proof is from the Rashba who says that for terefot shaylot you should do it near the garbage. This is relevant to the topic of moving muktzeh that is already in your hands.</ref> | #A rabbi should see shaylot of whether something is kosher in a place where he could drop if it he needs to rule that it is forbidden.<ref>Orchot shabbat v. 3 p. 330 discusses this at length. He cites the Chok Yakov who says that for chametz shaylot you should take it to a specific room that you could drop it if you ruled it was chametz. His proof is from the Rashba who says that for terefot shaylot you should do it near the garbage. This is relevant to the topic of moving muktzeh that is already in your hands.</ref> | ||
#If you picked up a kli shemelachto lisur or muktzeh by accident you shouldn’t continue to carry it.<ref>Magen Avraham 308:7 permits moving a kli shemelachto lisur if you picked it up in a forbidden way by accident. His proof is S”A 308:3 and Rama 266:12. However, the Gra 266:12 disagrees. He only allows continuing to carry muktzeh if you picked it up in a permitted way. Mishna Brurah 308:13 disagrees with the Magen Avraham even regarding a kli shemelachto lisur based on the Gra. Chazon Ish 49:8 disagrees with the Mishna Brurah’s application of the Gra.</ref> | #If you picked up a kli shemelachto lisur or muktzeh by accident you shouldn’t continue to carry it.<ref>Magen Avraham 308:7 permits moving a kli shemelachto lisur if you picked it up in a forbidden way by accident. His proof is S”A 308:3 and Rama 266:12. However, the Gra 266:12 disagrees. He only allows continuing to carry muktzeh if you picked it up in a permitted way. Mishna Brurah 308:13 disagrees with the Magen Avraham even regarding a kli shemelachto lisur based on the Gra. Chazon Ish 49:8 disagrees with the Mishna Brurah’s application of the Gra.</ref> | ||
# If you have muktzeh in your hand from before Shabbat some say that you can continue to carry it on Shabbat, while many disagree.<Ref>Agudah Beitzah 1:5 writes that if a person forgot and was holding a wallet when Shabbat started he can continue to carry it on Shabbat since he started on Shabbat. Rama 266:12 codifies this. However, Gra 266:12 disagrees. Mishna Brurah 266:35 is strict.</ref> | |||
# If you have a muktzeh pit in your hands when you were eating the fruit and you finished eating many say that you need to drop it right away.<ref>Even Haozer 266</ref> | |||
# When it is permitted to carry muktzeh that is already in your hands some say that you can only continue as long as you didn't stop, but once you stop in a significant way some say that you can't continue.<ref>Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 18 is lenient once you are carrying it that you can continue even if you stop. He cites the S”A Harav (kuntres acharon 301:10) that once you stop it is forbidden. It is similar to the Or Same'ach 24:12 that the reason you can continue carrying muktzeh once you started since muktzeh is based on hotzah and hotzah isn't an issue if there's no hanacha.</ref> | |||
==Unpleasant Situations (Geref Shel Reey)== | ==Unpleasant Situations (Geref Shel Reey)== | ||
