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==Magnets==
==Magnets==
# Magnets are not [[muktzeh]] on [[Shabbat]].<ref> Tiltulei [[Shabbat]]  (pg 32) </ref> Some hold that it is permissible to attach things using a magnet.<ref> [http://thehalacha.com/wp-content/uploads/Vol3Issue14.pdf Halachically Speaking] in the name of Rav Yisrael Belsky </ref> Others disagree and say that it is an issue of [[tofer]].<ref> [http://thehalacha.com/wp-content/uploads/Vol3Issue14.pdf Halachically Speaking] quoting Rav Elyashiv from sefer Migdal Dovid page 599:footnote 28 </ref>  
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# Magnets are not [[muktzeh]] on [[Shabbat]].<ref> Tiltulei [[Shabbat]]  (pg 32) </ref> Some hold that it is permissible to attach things using a magnet.<ref> [http://thehalacha.com/wp-content/uploads/Vol3Issue14.pdf Halachically Speaking] in the name of Rav Yisrael Belsky </ref> Others disagree and say that it is an issue of [[tofer]].<ref> [http://thehalacha.com/wp-content/uploads/Vol3Issue14.pdf Halachically Speaking] quoting Rav Elyashiv from Sefer Migdal Dovid page 599:footnote 28 </ref>
#Making pictures and words with magnets on a board is a major dispute whether that is considered writing, [[Kotaiv]], and is forbidden or not.<ref>39 Melachos v. 3 p. 951 forbids placing magnets on a board since it is considered like writing. However, [https://dinonline.org/2010/12/26/magnets-on-shabbos/ Rabbi Pfeffer] permits kids using magnets to make a design or drawing. Dor Hamelaktim v. 6 p. 3674 quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein (Mesoret Moshe v. 1 n. 153, Rishumei Aharon 340:3), Rav Shlomo Zalman (Shulchan Shlomo 340:35), and Rav Elyashiv (Shvut Yitzchak v. 13 p. 23) as strict unlike Minchat Ish 22 fnt. 45 as lenient. [[Asicha_Hilchos_Shabbos_Part_2| Rav Mordechai Willig (Asicha Shabbos 2 p. 5)]] permits playing with magnets and even placing letter magnets on a background and it is not considered kotaiv.</ref>
 
==Marbles==
==Marbles==
# Children may play with marbles inside the house (as long as it has flooring and not bare earth) but not outside. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:5 </ref>
# Children may play with marbles inside the house (as long as it has flooring and not bare earth) but not outside. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:5 </ref>
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