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==Snow== | ==Snow== | ||
=== Making Snowballs or a Snowman === | |||
# Most poskim hold that it is forbidden to make snowballs or a snowman on Shabbat.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchata 16:45</ref> Some poskim say that it is permitted to allow children to make snowballs on Shabbat.<ref>Mayan Omer 13:68 quoting Rav Ovadia Yosef writes that for an adult we would rule stringently, but for a child we would be lenient.</ref> | |||
===Walking=== | ===Walking=== | ||
# One may walk normally on snow without concern that he is causing it to melt.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 320:13, Yalkut Yosef 320:25 </ref> This is true even if your shoes have letters which will be imprinted into the snow.<ref> Yalkut Yosef 320:25, Yabea Omer 5:28, Sh"t Maharam Brisk 1:59, Sh"t Chelkat Yaakov 2:132 </ref> | # One may walk normally on snow without concern that he is causing it to melt.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 320:13, Yalkut Yosef 320:25 </ref> This is true even if your shoes have letters which will be imprinted into the snow.<ref> Yalkut Yosef 320:25, Yabea Omer 5:28, Sh"t Maharam Brisk 1:59, Sh"t Chelkat Yaakov 2:132 </ref> | ||
===Muktzeh=== | ===Muktzeh=== | ||
# Some say that snow isn’t considered [[Muktzeh]], while others believe it is. In any event it is forbidden to make snowballs or a snowman on Shabbat. <Ref> Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 138). Beer Moshe 1:20, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchita 16: | # Some say that snow isn’t considered [[Muktzeh]], while others believe it is. In any event it is forbidden to make snowballs or a snowman on Shabbat. <Ref> Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 138). Beer Moshe 1:20, Shemirat Shabbat Kehilchita (ch. 16 fnt. 110), and Yalkut Yosef 308:217 rule that snow isn't [[muktzeh]] based on the Gemara Eruvin 46a and Tosfot Beitzah 2a s.v. ka which says that rain is not [[muktzeh]] as nolad because the moisture was in the clouds before the rain fell. Rivivot Ephraim 1:223:1 agrees. | ||
<br /> However, Rav Moshe Feinstein (quoted in The Halachos of Muktza, pg. 165 note 10) stated that snow is [[muktzeh]] because it isn’t normally used for humans or animals to eat and therefore would be like sticks or stones, even if it fell before [[Shabbat]]. He says that if it fell on Shabbat it is additionally nolad. In Iggerot Moshe OC 5:22 he was asked if you can move snow, based on his earlier psak that its [[muktzeh]], and says that it is prohibition because of [[nolad]] and explains what makes it different from rain. | <br /> However, Rav Moshe Feinstein (quoted in The Halachos of Muktza, pg. 165 note 10) stated that snow is [[muktzeh]] because it isn’t normally used for humans or animals to eat and therefore would be like sticks or stones, even if it fell before [[Shabbat]]. He says that if it fell on Shabbat it is additionally nolad. In Iggerot Moshe OC 5:22 he was asked if you can move snow, based on his earlier psak that its [[muktzeh]], and says that it is prohibition because of [[nolad]] and explains what makes it different from rain. | ||
* Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 203) and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata consider snow to be non-[[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(37) and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 13) consider it severe [[Muktzeh]]. Dirshu 338:38 cites the dispute.</ref> | * Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 203) and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata consider snow to be non-[[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(37) and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 13) consider it severe [[Muktzeh]]. Dirshu 338:38 cites the dispute.</ref> | ||
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==Lego or Tinkertoy== | ==Lego or Tinkertoy== | ||
[[Image:Lego.jpg|200px|right]] | [[Image:Lego.jpg|200px|right]] | ||
# Many poskim hold that playing with Lego or Tinkertoy is permitted and isn’t considered building (see page on [[Boneh]]) and is permissible. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:18, Sh”t Or Letzion vol 2 (chap 42:5 pg 272), Sh”t Tzitz Eliezer 13:30, Sh”t Be'er Moshe 6:25, Sh”t Yabia Omer 7:39(4), Yechaveh Da'at 2:55, Yalkut Yosef 314:1, Chazon Ovadia ([[Shabbat]] v. 3 pp. 101-103 and v. 5 pp. 293-4), Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 135). | # Many poskim hold that playing with Lego or Tinkertoy is permitted and isn’t considered building (see page on [[Boneh]]) and is permissible.<Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:18, Sh”t Or Letzion vol 2 (chap 42:5 pg 272), Sh”t Tzitz Eliezer 13:30, Sh”t Be'er Moshe 6:25, Sh”t Yabia Omer 7:39(4), Yechaveh Da'at 2:55, Yalkut Yosef 314:1, Chazon Ovadia ([[Shabbat]] v. 3 pp. 101-103 and v. 5 pp. 293-4), Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 135). | ||
* The Shulchan Aruch 314:1 based on the gemara (Shabbos 122b) comes to the conclusion that there is not a prohibition of boneh in regard to keilim. Therefore, in S”A 313:6 he writes one can put together utensils that are made of different parts when the connection is flimsy. However, if one firmly forces one piece into another, there is a torah prohibition. The Magen Avraham (313:12) and Taz (313:7) rule that things whose use is by constantly opening and closing them are not bound by the usual parameters of building. Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Sh”t Yechave Daat 2:55 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbos vol. 3 pg 101) quotes a machloket amongst the poskim if a real building that one intends to take apart in a short period of time constitutes boneh. He concludes that lego is permitted since the building has no permanence and it is taken apart often. Sh”t Or Letzion vol 2 (chap 42:5 pg 272), Sh”t Tzitz Eliezer 13:30 and 31, and Children in Halacha (pg. 135) agree that lego is completely permitted even for an adult. | * The Shulchan Aruch 314:1 based on the gemara (Shabbos 122b) comes to the conclusion that there is not a prohibition of boneh in regard to keilim. Therefore, in S”A 313:6 he writes one can put together utensils that are made of different parts when the connection is flimsy. However, if one firmly forces one piece into another, there is a torah prohibition. The Magen Avraham (313:12) and Taz (313:7) rule that things whose use is by constantly opening and closing them are not bound by the usual parameters of building. Chacham Ovadia Yosef (Sh”t Yechave Daat 2:55 and Chazon Ovadia Shabbos vol. 3 pg 101) quotes a machloket amongst the poskim if a real building that one intends to take apart in a short period of time constitutes boneh. He concludes that lego is permitted since the building has no permanence and it is taken apart often. Sh”t Or Letzion vol 2 (chap 42:5 pg 272), Sh”t Tzitz Eliezer 13:30 and 31, and Children in Halacha (pg. 135) agree that lego is completely permitted even for an adult. | ||
* The Or Letzion's reasoning is that if one intends to take them apart in a short period of time, then it is considered like something that is usually put together and taken apart and doesn't constitute Boneh. Additionally, they are put together for fun and not in order to build. </ref> Others are strict. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:19 (in the new edition) writes that building blocks which fit together tightly are forbidden and continues to give Lego as an example. Rav Ovadia in Chazon Ovadia [[Shabbat]] v. 3 pg 103 also points out that in the Hashmatot to Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata, it says that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach retracted his original lenient ruling because of the variety of objects one could build with the same pieces. Similarly, Shalmei Yehuda (pg 90) quotes Rav Elyashiv as saying that lego would be considered building. Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, pg 24) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein as saying that it’s not clear whether the interlocking pieces is forbidden, and therefore the Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] writes that one shouldn’t give it to a child, but if the child takes it not to object. See also Sh”t Machazeh Eliyahu 69 who raises the issue of [[Kotev]].</ref> | * The Or Letzion's reasoning is that if one intends to take them apart in a short period of time, then it is considered like something that is usually put together and taken apart and doesn't constitute Boneh. Additionally, they are put together for fun and not in order to build. </ref> Others are strict. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 16:19 (in the new edition) writes that building blocks which fit together tightly are forbidden and continues to give Lego as an example. Rav Ovadia in Chazon Ovadia [[Shabbat]] v. 3 pg 103 also points out that in the Hashmatot to Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata, it says that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach retracted his original lenient ruling because of the variety of objects one could build with the same pieces. Similarly, Shalmei Yehuda (pg 90) quotes Rav Elyashiv as saying that lego would be considered building. Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (Rabbi Pinchas Bodner, pg 24) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein as saying that it’s not clear whether the interlocking pieces is forbidden, and therefore the Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] writes that one shouldn’t give it to a child, but if the child takes it not to object. See also Sh”t Machazeh Eliyahu 69 who raises the issue of [[Kotev]].</ref> | ||
# If a child takes these toys on their own you don't have to stop them.<reF>A Guide to Practical Halacha (Shabbat v. 3 p. 149 n. 6) quoting Rav Moshe Feinstein writes that one should not give children legos, bristle blocks, or tinker toys on Shabbat but if they take it on their own you don't have to stop them.</ref> | |||
==Board games== | ==Board games== | ||
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[[Category:Muktzeh]] | [[Category:Muktzeh]] | ||
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