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===Muktzeh===
===Muktzeh===
# Some say that snow isn’t considered [[Muktzeh]], while others believe it is. In any event it is forbidden to make snowballs or a snowman on Shabbat. <Ref> Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 138). Beer Moshe 1:20, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchita 16:note 110 rule that snow isn't [[muktzeh]] based on the Gemara Eruvin 46a and Tosfot Beitzah 2a s.v. ka which says that rain is not [[muktzeh]] as nolad because the moisture was in the clouds before the rain fell. Rivivot Ephraim 1:223:1 agrees.
# Some say that snow isn’t considered [[Muktzeh]], while others believe it is. In any event it is forbidden to make snowballs or a snowman on Shabbat. <Ref> Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 138). Beer Moshe 1:20, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kehilchita 16:note 110 rule that snow isn't [[muktzeh]] based on the Gemara Eruvin 46a and Tosfot Beitzah 2a s.v. ka which says that rain is not [[muktzeh]] as nolad because the moisture was in the clouds before the rain fell. Rivivot Ephraim 1:223:1 agrees.
<br /> However, Rav Moshe Feinstein (quoted in The Halachos of Muktza, pg. 165 note 10) stated that snow is [[muktzeh]] because it isn’t normally used and therefore would be like sticks or stones, even if it fell before [[Shabbat]]. In Iggerot Moshe OC 5:22 he was asked if you can move snow, based on his earlier psak that its [[muktzeh]], and says that it is prohibition because of [[nolad]] and explains what makes it different from rain.
<br /> However, Rav Moshe Feinstein (quoted in The Halachos of Muktza, pg. 165 note 10) stated that snow is [[muktzeh]] because it isn’t normally used for humans or animals to eat and therefore would be like sticks or stones, even if it fell before [[Shabbat]]. He says that if it fell on Shabbat it is additionally nolad. In Iggerot Moshe OC 5:22 he was asked if you can move snow, based on his earlier psak that its [[muktzeh]], and says that it is prohibition because of [[nolad]] and explains what makes it different from rain.
* Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 203) and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata consider snow to be non-[[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(37) and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 13) consider it severe [[Muktzeh]]. </ref>
* Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 203) and Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata consider snow to be non-[[Muktzeh]], while Sh”t Igrot Moshe 5:22(37) and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach in Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 13) consider it severe [[Muktzeh]]. Dirshu 338:38 cites the dispute.</ref>


===Shoveling===
===Shoveling===