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# Children may play with marbles inside the house (as long as it has flooring and not bare earth) but not outside. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 16:5 </ref>
# Children may play with marbles inside the house (as long as it has flooring and not bare earth) but not outside. <Ref> Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 16:5 </ref>
==Playing with a ball==
==Playing with a ball==
# A play-ball according to some Sephardic poskim is [[Muktzeh]], while Ashkenazic poskim hold it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter<ref> Even though Shevut Yitzchak (pg 89) quotes Rav Elyashiv as saying that even Shulchan Aruch would agree that the modern play-ball is non-[[Muktzeh]]. Even though Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:84; authored by Rav Yitzchak Yosef) writes one should follow S”A 308:45 that considers all balls to be [[Muktzeh]], Chazon Ovadia (p. 99; authored by Rav Ovadia Yosef) rules that nowadays since the balls are made to this purpose they aren't [[Muktzeh]]. Sh”t Or Letzion 2:26:8 writes that a ball is considered [[Muktzah]] for boys and girls above Bar and Bat mitzvah. Other games are generally not [[muktzah]] but should preferably be treated as [[muktzah]] and not moved.  
# A play-ball according to some Sephardic poskim is [[Muktzeh]], while Ashkenazic poskim hold it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter <ref> * Shevut Yitzchak (pg 89) quotes Rav Elyashiv as saying that even Shulchan Aruch would agree that the modern play-ball is non-[[Muktzeh]]. Even though Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:84; authored by Rav Yitzchak Yosef) writes one should follow S”A 308:45 that considers all balls to be [[Muktzeh]], Chazon Ovadia (p. 99; authored by Rav Ovadia Yosef) rules that nowadays since the balls are made to this purpose they aren't [[Muktzeh]]. Sh”t Or Letzion 2:26:8 writes that a ball is considered [[Muktzah]] for boys and girls above Bar and Bat mitzvah. Other games are generally not [[muktzah]] but should preferably be treated as [[muktzah]] and not moved.  
* For Ashkenazim the Rama 308:45 certainly considers balls to be non-[[Muktzeh]]. Rav Moshe Feinstein quoted by Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 22 note 16), Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 91), and Sh"t [[Shevet Halevi]] 9:78 agree.</ref>
* For Ashkenazim the Rama 308:45 certainly considers balls to be non-[[Muktzeh]]. Rav Moshe Feinstein quoted by Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 22 note 16), Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 91), and Sh"t [[Shevet Halevi]] 9:78 agree.</ref>
# Children may play ball games on paved (asphalt or concrete) ground or on a ping-pong table, both indoors or outside, as long as there’s an appropriate Eruv. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 16:6. Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 137) adds that any game which the ball rolls on the ground may not be played except on pavement; however, other ball games can be played even on grass. Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 140) says that it’s permissible to play ping-pong. </ref>
# Children may play ball games on paved (asphalt or concrete) ground or on a ping-pong table, both indoors or outside, as long as there’s an appropriate Eruv. <Ref>Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 16:6. Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim Cohen, pg 137) adds that any game which the ball rolls on the ground may not be played except on pavement; however, other ball games can be played even on grass. Children in Halacha (Rabbi Simcha Bunim, pg 140) says that it’s permissible to play ping-pong. </ref>