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===Mezonot===
===Mezonot===
====Rice, Bisli, and Wafers====
====Rice, Bisli, and Wafers====
# [[Mezonot]] which isn’t similar to bread at all requires a Bracha if eaten as a dessert. Examples include: Bisli, puffed rice in chocolate, (or rice crispy treats), and Kabukim (peanuts with dough coating). <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 74-5, chapter 8) </ref> However, if one eats the [[mezonot]] to satiate it doesn’t require a Bracha in any case. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8), Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 95, chapter 5) </ref> Some include wafers. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 484, addendum 2) writes that the dough of wafers is so thin it isn’t a bread family food and accordingly it requires a Bracha if eaten as dessert. However, Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 4) writes in name of Rav Pinchas Shienburg that wafers aren’t in the bread family, but questions it and leaves it unresolved. </ref>  
# [[Mezonot]] which isn’t similar to bread at all requires a Bracha if eaten as a dessert. Examples include: Bisli, puffed rice in chocolate, (or rice crispy treats), and Kabukim (peanuts with dough coating). <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 74-5, chapter 8). Birkat Hashem v. 3 10:77 agrees that Bisli requires a bracha for dessert. </ref> However, if one eats the [[mezonot]] to satiate it doesn’t require a Bracha in any case. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8), Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 95, chapter 5) </ref> Some include wafers. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 484, addendum 2) writes that the dough of wafers is so thin it isn’t a bread family food and accordingly it requires a Bracha if eaten as dessert. However, Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 4) writes in name of Rav Pinchas Shienburg that wafers aren’t in the bread family, but questions it and leaves it unresolved. </ref>
# Some say that deep fried doughnuts require a bracha when eaten as a dessert at the end of the meal.<ref>Birkat Hashem v. 3 10:77 explains that since the deep fried doughnut isn't considered Pat Haba Bkisnin it isn't considered bread at all and the Hamotzei doesn't exempt it and it would require a bracha. Even according to the Rabbenu Tam that a doughnut is Pat Haba Bkisnin it could be that he would agree that it would require a bracha like the opinions who hold that Pat Haba Bkisnin for dessert require a bracha.</ref>
 
====Cakes and Cookies====
====Cakes and Cookies====
# In general, Pas HaBah BeKisnin such as cake, cookies, and biscuits don’t require a Bracha during the meal even if eaten as a dessert. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8)
# In general, Pas HaBah BeKisnin such as cake, cookies, and biscuits don’t require a Bracha during the meal even if eaten as a dessert. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8)