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# [[Mezonot]] which isn’t similar to bread at all requires a Bracha if eaten as a dessert. Examples include: Bisli, puffed rice in chocolate, (or rice crispy treats), and Kabukim (peanuts with dough coating). <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 74-5, chapter 8) </ref> However, if one eats the [[mezonot]] to satiate it doesn’t require a Bracha in any case. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8), Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 95, chapter 5) </ref> Some include wafers. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 484, addendum 2) writes that the dough of wafers is so thin it isn’t a bread family food and accordingly it requires a Bracha if eaten as dessert. However, Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 4) writes in name of Rav Pinchas Shienburg that wafers aren’t in the bread family, but questions it and leaves it unresolved. </ref>  
# [[Mezonot]] which isn’t similar to bread at all requires a Bracha if eaten as a dessert. Examples include: Bisli, puffed rice in chocolate, (or rice crispy treats), and Kabukim (peanuts with dough coating). <Ref>Vezot HaBracha (pg 74-5, chapter 8) </ref> However, if one eats the [[mezonot]] to satiate it doesn’t require a Bracha in any case. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8), Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 95, chapter 5) </ref> Some include wafers. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 484, addendum 2) writes that the dough of wafers is so thin it isn’t a bread family food and accordingly it requires a Bracha if eaten as dessert. However, Vezot HaBracha (pg 26, chapter 4) writes in name of Rav Pinchas Shienburg that wafers aren’t in the bread family, but questions it and leaves it unresolved. </ref>  
# In general, Pas HaBah BeKisnin such as cake, cookies, and biscuits don’t require a Bracha during the meal even if eaten as a dessert. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8) </ref>
# In general, Pas HaBah BeKisnin such as cake, cookies, and biscuits don’t require a Bracha during the meal even if eaten as a dessert. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8) </ref>
# The minhag is not to make a Bracha on [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] as dessert unless it fulfills all three requirements of Pas HaBah BeKisnin. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8) </ref> For example, fruit filled pie fulfills all three requirements and requires a Bracha. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 96, chapter 5) in name of Rav Pinchas Sheinburg writes that apple pie fulfills all three requirements of [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] and so it requires a Bracha, however, if it’s eaten for satiation as is the usual case it doesn’t require a Bracha. See Vezot HaBracha (pg 316, Birur Halacha 39:4(3) writes that there’s a doubt whether the pie crust should be considered crumbling but concludes that there’s room to make a Bracha according to the halacha even if it only fulfills the other two requirements. </ref>
# The minhag is not to make a Bracha on [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] as dessert unless it fulfills all three requirements of Pas HaBah BeKisnin. <Ref> Vezot HaBracha (pg 75, chapter 8) </ref> For example, fruit filled pie fulfills all three requirements and requires a Bracha. <Ref>Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 96, chapter 5) in name of Rav Pinchas Sheinburg writes that apple pie fulfills all three requirements of [[Pas HaBah Bekisnin]] and so it requires a Bracha, however, if it’s eaten for satiation as is the usual case it doesn’t require a Bracha. See Vezot HaBracha (pg 316, Birur Halacha 39:4(3) writes that there’s a doubt whether the pie crust should be considered crumbling but concludes that there’s room to make a Bracha according to the halacha even if it only fulfills the other two requirements. </ref> Some hold that one should recite mezonot on cakes at the end of the meal.<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/896724/rabbi-hershel-schachter/berachos-83-42a-43a-parperes-dessert-birkas-hareiach-hamaschil-bemitzvah-matzah-on-erev-pesach/ Rav Schachter (Brachot Shiur 83 min 12-17)] explains that Rav Moshe's opinion was that the cakes and cookies today are very sweet and are certainly Pat Haba Bkisnin and as such one should recite a bracha of Mezonot on them for dessert. He added that generally a person is full before dessert and as such it would require a bracha unless one is actually hungry and eating dessert to fill oneself up.</ref>
# However, the strict halacha requires a Bracha even the [[mezonot]] only fulfills the condition of having a sweet filler and having dough made with a majority of ingredients in comparison to the water not counting the flour. Examples include:  
# However, the strict halacha requires a Bracha even the [[mezonot]] only fulfills the condition of having a sweet filler and having dough made with a majority of ingredients in comparison to the water not counting the flour. Examples include:  
## Sufganiyot (doughnuts) filled with jelly,  
## Sufganiyot (doughnuts) filled with jelly,