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# It is permitted to set up four walls of a tzurat hapetach to enclose a residential area.<ref>Pri Megadim MZ 363:1 has an unresolved question whether a tzurat hapetach is valid from the Torah or derabbanan. Biur Halacha 362:10 s.v. kshkol tries to prove that this is a dispute between the Ri and Rabbenu Chananel. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=221 Chazon Ish 70:13] holds that the tzurat hapetach is valid m'deoritta (excluding the issue of ayti rabbim).</ref> However, for an uninhabited valley it is invalid.<ref>Biur Halacha 362:10 s.v.aval is lenient on uninhabited valley if it is only 10 or less. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=221 Chazon Ish 70:11] machmir.</ref> | # It is permitted to set up four walls of a tzurat hapetach to enclose a residential area.<ref>Pri Megadim MZ 363:1 has an unresolved question whether a tzurat hapetach is valid from the Torah or derabbanan. Biur Halacha 362:10 s.v. kshkol tries to prove that this is a dispute between the Ri and Rabbenu Chananel. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=221 Chazon Ish 70:13] holds that the tzurat hapetach is valid m'deoritta (excluding the issue of ayti rabbim).</ref> However, for an uninhabited valley it is invalid.<ref>Biur Halacha 362:10 s.v.aval is lenient on uninhabited valley if it is only 10 or less. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=221 Chazon Ish 70:11] machmir.</ref> | ||
# Four walls made of tzurot hapetach aren't effective for a reshut harabbim because of the issue of ''ayti rabbim,'' conceptually "the masses come and knock down the tzurat hapetach."<Ref>Eruvin 6b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 364:2</ref> | # Four walls made of tzurot hapetach aren't effective for a reshut harabbim because of the issue of ''ayti rabbim,'' conceptually "the masses come and knock down the tzurat hapetach."<Ref>Eruvin 6b, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 364:2</ref> | ||
#Wire should directly over the sideposts without anything separating between the sidepost and the wire.<Ref>Taz 363:19 holds that if there's a roof between the lechi and the kaneh on top it is an invalid tzurat hapetach. Tosefet Shabbos 363:64 disagrees and allows it. Mishna Brurah 363:112, Shulchan Aruch Harav 363:32, and Chazon Ish 71:13 accept Taz. Rav Dovid Feinstein (Vdibarta Bam v. 2 p. 289) holds that in extenuating circumstances at least for derabbanan purposes it is possible to follow Tosefet Shabbat unlike Taz. Chazon Ish 71:13 implies that if the roof was small and not 4 amot long it isn't a hefsek.</ref> | |||
===Doorpost behind a Wall=== | ===Doorpost behind a Wall=== | ||
#Most poskim are stringent not to allow a tzurat hapetach if one side post is inside of a four-walled area.<ref>The Netivot in [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41113&st=&pgnum=2 Tikkun Eruvin] writes that you can’t make a tzurat hapetach with one kaneh that is enclosed in an area surrounded by four walls. He presents two reasons. 1) A tzurat hapetach needs to be recognizable and if it is inside another area it isn’t recognizable. 2) The reshut hayachid is considered completely filled up and the kaneh is like it doesn’t count. Shaarei Teshuva 363:7 quotes this. Mishna Brurah 363:113 agrees. Avnei Nezer OC 291 accepts the Tikkun Eruvin’s point for another reason because he disagrees with both reasons of the Tikkun Eruvin. He says that it is like the kaneh that in the reshut hayachid is like it is separated from the other kaneh. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=223 Chazon Ish 70:22] writes this idea to explain the Tikkun Eruvin.</ref> | #Most poskim are stringent not to allow a tzurat hapetach if one side post is inside of a four-walled area.<ref>The Netivot in [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=41113&st=&pgnum=2 Tikkun Eruvin] writes that you can’t make a tzurat hapetach with one kaneh that is enclosed in an area surrounded by four walls. He presents two reasons. 1) A tzurat hapetach needs to be recognizable and if it is inside another area it isn’t recognizable. 2) The reshut hayachid is considered completely filled up and the kaneh is like it doesn’t count. Shaarei Teshuva 363:7 quotes this. Mishna Brurah 363:113 agrees. Avnei Nezer OC 291 accepts the Tikkun Eruvin’s point for another reason because he disagrees with both reasons of the Tikkun Eruvin. He says that it is like the kaneh that in the reshut hayachid is like it is separated from the other kaneh. [https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14336&st=&pgnum=223 Chazon Ish 70:22] writes this idea to explain the Tikkun Eruvin.</ref> | ||
