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===Method 2: Variations of Matzah=== | ===Method 2: Variations of Matzah=== | ||
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# For Friday night, some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat regular matzah.<ref>Rav Schachter in [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Young Israel of Woodmere Guide] quoting Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik and Rav Chaim Soloveitchik</ref> Sephardim hold this and can eat matzah for the hamotzei Friday night.<ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef in Chazon Ovadia Pesach p. 259, [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 33)]</ref> Others hold that one should not eat matzah on Friday since it is part of Erev Pesach when it is forbidden to eat matzah.<reF>Igrot Moshe 1:155. The Baal Hameor Pesachim 15b holds it is only forbidden to eat matzah from the time it is forbidden to have chametz, while the Ramban holds it is forbidden all day and seemingly even at night. The Ran 16a (as well in the Chidushim 49a) and Rosh 3:7 agree with the Baal Hameor. Rabbenu Dovid Pesachim 49a agree with the Ramban. The Rif 16a and Rambam Chametz Umatzah 6:12 (as | # For Friday night, some poskim hold that it is permitted to eat regular matzah.<ref>Rav Schachter in [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Young Israel of Woodmere Guide] quoting Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik and Rav Chaim Soloveitchik</ref> Sephardim hold this and can eat matzah for the hamotzei Friday night.<ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef in Chazon Ovadia Pesach p. 259, [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 33)]</ref> Others hold that one should not eat matzah on Friday since it is part of Erev Pesach when it is forbidden to eat matzah.<reF>Igrot Moshe 1:155. The Baal Hameor Pesachim 15b holds it is only forbidden to eat matzah from the time it is forbidden to have chametz, while the Ramban holds it is forbidden all day and seemingly even at night. The Ran 16a (as well in the Chidushim 49a), Ritva Psachim 50a s.v. amru, and Rosh 3:7 agree with the Baal Hameor. Maharam Chalavah 49a s.v. yerushalami and Rabbenu Dovid Pesachim 49a agree with the Ramban. The Rif 16a and Rambam Chametz Umatzah 6:12 (as interpreted by the Maggid Mishna) hold it is only forbidden all day. Magen Avraham 471:6 is strict and Igrot Moshe is concerned for the Magen Avraham. Rav Ovadia and Rav Schachter follow the Chok Yaakov 471:6 who permits it at night.</ref> | ||
# It is forbidden to eat regular matzah the morning of Erev Pesach for the morning meal.<ref>Yerushalmi 10:1, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 444:1, Igrot Moshe 1:155, Chazon Ovadia p. 259</ref> | # It is forbidden to eat regular matzah the morning of Erev Pesach for the morning meal.<ref>Yerushalmi 10:1, Shulchan Aruch O.C. 444:1, Igrot Moshe 1:155, Chazon Ovadia p. 259</ref> | ||
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# In order to start finish chametz by the proper time,<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:4</ref> it is recommended to start davening early and some even suggest skipping the piytum for Shabbat Hagadol or saying them in advance on the previous Shabbat.<ref>Dirshu 444:7 quotes the Pri Magadim MZ 430:1 who says that the yotzrot are said as usual even on Erev Pesach that falls out on Shabbat, Rav Chaim Zonenfeld (Seder Erev Pesach Shchal Bshabbat n. 5) held that they should be skipped, and the Maharil Erev Pesach n. 10 would say them a week in advance.</ref> | # In order to start finish chametz by the proper time,<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:4</ref> it is recommended to start davening early and some even suggest skipping the piytum for Shabbat Hagadol or saying them in advance on the previous Shabbat.<ref>Dirshu 444:7 quotes the Pri Magadim MZ 430:1 who says that the yotzrot are said as usual even on Erev Pesach that falls out on Shabbat, Rav Chaim Zonenfeld (Seder Erev Pesach Shchal Bshabbat n. 5) held that they should be skipped, and the Maharil Erev Pesach n. 10 would say them a week in advance.</ref> | ||
# Some recommend starting davening earlier, and then having two meals with bread before the fifth halachic hour.<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:8 based on the Gra</ref> In order to do this and not have a concern of making unnecessary brachot, [[bracha sheino tzaricha]], one should break up the meals with a little walk out of the house and a short break of 15 to 30 minutes.<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:8 writes that one should make a short break. In the context of breaking up lunch and seuda shelishit on a regular Shabbat, Mishna Brurah 291:5 writes that one should walk around in between. Dirshu 444:14 quotes the Darkei Chayim Vshalom p. 401 as holding that a 15 minute is sufficient, while the Chazon Ish (Igrot Chazon Ish 1:188) would wait 30 minutes. [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/723458/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/when-erev-pesach-is-on-shabbos/ Rav Willig (min 9-10)] also did like that. [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Rav Schachter] also held 30 minutes without necessitating leaving.</ref> | # Some recommend starting davening earlier, and then having two meals with bread before the fifth halachic hour.<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:8 based on the Gra</ref> In order to do this and not have a concern of making unnecessary brachot, [[bracha sheino tzaricha]], one should break up the meals with a little walk out of the house and a short break of 15 to 30 minutes.<ref>Mishna Brurah 444:8 writes that one should make a short break. In the context of breaking up lunch and seuda shelishit on a regular Shabbat, Mishna Brurah 291:5 writes that one should walk around in between. Dirshu 444:14 quotes the Darkei Chayim Vshalom p. 401 as holding that a 15 minute is sufficient, while the Chazon Ish (Igrot Chazon Ish 1:188) would wait 30 minutes. [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/723458/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/when-erev-pesach-is-on-shabbos/ Rav Willig (min 9-10)] also did like that. [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Rav Schachter] also held 30 minutes without necessitating leaving.</ref> | ||
#Sephardim do not have the minhag to have two meals in the morning since they hold that seuda shelishit must be in the afternoon.<Ref>Radvaz 1:489, Kaf Hachaim 444:8, Or Letzion 3:14:1. Tosfot Chachmei Angliya Pesachim 13a s.v. mazon says that those who have two meals in the morning of Erev Pesach on Shabbat are mistaken because seuda shelishit needs to be in the afternoon. Meiri 13a s.v. ulinyan also writes that the minhag to break up the morning meal in two is rejected and not reasonable according to the halacha.</ref> | #Sephardim do not have the minhag to have two meals in the morning since they hold that seuda shelishit must be in the afternoon.<Ref>Radvaz 1:489, Kaf Hachaim 444:8, Or Letzion 3:14:1. Tosfot Chachmei Angliya Pesachim 13a s.v. mazon says that those who have two meals in the morning of Erev Pesach on Shabbat are mistaken because seuda shelishit needs to be in the afternoon. Meiri 13a s.v. ulinyan also writes that the minhag to break up the morning meal in two is rejected and not reasonable according to the halacha. Tosfot Shabbat 118a, Rabbenu Peretz Pesachim 13a, and Maharam Chalavah Pesachim 13a all reject the approach that requires having two meals in the morning.</ref> | ||
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