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#Some Sephardim have the minhag to eat seuda shelishit with egg matzah<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 444:1 writes that this is the solution that he recommends to eat for seuda shelishit. Radvaz 1:489 personally practiced this and held it was the best solution. He in fact says he only would eat a kezayit so that he'd be hungry to eat matzah that night.</ref> and recite mezonot.<Ref>Kaf Hachaim 444:11</ref> Ashkenazim generally do not have this minhag as they do not eat egg matzah for all of Pesach out of a concern that it is chametz.<ref>Rama 444:1</ref> However, others hold that it is permitted and even recommended to eat egg matzah for seuda shelishit.<ref>See Or Zaruah 2:256 s.v. lo yesev who implies that it is permitted to have egg matzah for seuda shelishit on Shabbat. Darkei Moshe Haaruch 444 cites the halacha in 471:2 and implies that it is only forbidden to eat egg matzah after the tenth hour and not after the fourth hour.</ref>
#Some Sephardim have the minhag to eat seuda shelishit with egg matzah<ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 444:1 writes that this is the solution that he recommends to eat for seuda shelishit. Radvaz 1:489 personally practiced this and held it was the best solution. He in fact says he only would eat a kezayit so that he'd be hungry to eat matzah that night.</ref> and recite mezonot.<Ref>Kaf Hachaim 444:11</ref> Ashkenazim generally do not have this minhag as they do not eat egg matzah for all of Pesach out of a concern that it is chametz.<ref>Rama 444:1</ref> However, others hold that it is permitted and even recommended to eat egg matzah for seuda shelishit.<ref>See Or Zaruah 2:256 s.v. lo yesev who implies that it is permitted to have egg matzah for seuda shelishit on Shabbat. Darkei Moshe Haaruch 444 cites the halacha in 471:2 and implies that it is only forbidden to eat egg matzah after the tenth hour and not after the fourth hour.</ref>
===Cooked Matzah===
===Cooked Matzah===
#Ashkenazim do not have the minhag to eat cooked matzah for seuda shelishit.<ref>Magen Avraham 444:1</ref> Sephardim have the minhag to have seuda shelishit with cooked matza.<ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 52)] said that sephardim can have deep fried matza for seuda shlishit.</ref>
#Ashkenazim do not have the minhag to eat cooked matzah for seuda shelishit.<ref>Magen Avraham 444:1</ref> Sephardim have the minhag to have seuda shelishit with cooked matza.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Pesach p. 260. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 52)] said that sephardim can have cooked or deep fried matza for seuda shlishit.</ref>


===Deep Fried Matzah===
===Deep Fried Matzah===
#Sephardim have the minhag to have seuda shelishit with deep fried matza.<ref>[https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 52)] said that sephardim can have deep fried matza for seuda shlishit.</ref> Some are concerned that deep fried matzah is forbidden on Erev Pesach.<ref>Pri Megadim 471:8 has a doubt whether deep fried matzah is similar to cooked matzah and therefore it could be forbidden to eat on Erev Pesach. Therefore, Or Letzion 3:14:1 forbids eating deep fried matzah for seuda shelishit. However, Chazon Ovadia is not concerned for the Pri Megadim since the Shulchan Aruch Harav holds certainly deep frying is like cooking.</ref>
#Sephardim have the minhag to have seuda shelishit with deep fried matza.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Pesach p. 260. [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=144287 Rav Yitzchak Yosef (Motzei Shabbat Vayakel Pekudei 5781 min 52)] said that sephardim can have deep fried matza for seuda shlishit.</ref> Some are concerned that deep fried matzah is forbidden on Erev Pesach.<ref>Pri Megadim 471:8 has a doubt whether deep fried matzah is similar to cooked matzah and therefore it could be forbidden to eat on Erev Pesach. Therefore, Or Letzion 3:14:1 forbids eating deep fried matzah for seuda shelishit. However, Chazon Ovadia is not concerned for the Pri Megadim since the Shulchan Aruch Harav holds certainly deep frying is like cooking.</ref>
===Matzah Meal Cakes===
===Matzah Meal Cakes===
#A person should not eat baked matzah meal cakes for seuda shelishit.<ref>Rama 471:2, Mishna Brurah 471:20, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 8:117, Or Letzion 3:14:1, Piskei Teshuvot 471:3, [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Young Israel of Woodmere Guide]</ref> Some are lenient to eat matzah meal cakes on Erev Pesach since when the batter was made the matzah meal lost its form and appearance of matzah. Nonetheless, it isn't an ideal solution for seuda shelishit even according to this opinion since it is mezonot.<Ref>Halichot Shlomo 8:4 writes that it’s permissible if in the kneading the dough lost its form as bread.</ref>
#A person should not eat baked matzah meal cakes for seuda shelishit.<ref>Rama 471:2, Mishna Brurah 471:20, Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 8:117, Or Letzion 3:14:1, Piskei Teshuvot 471:3, [https://images.shulcloud.com/709/uploads/YoungIsraelofWoodmerePesachHalachaBooklet.pdf Young Israel of Woodmere Guide]</ref> Some are lenient to eat matzah meal cakes on Erev Pesach since when the batter was made the matzah meal lost its form and appearance of matzah. Nonetheless, it isn't an ideal solution for seuda shelishit even according to this opinion since it is mezonot.<Ref>Halichot Shlomo 8:4 writes that it’s permissible if in the kneading the dough lost its form as bread.</ref>
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