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* ''Grama'': The grama is completely illusionary - immediately upon touching it sends signals to the machine and randomly it'll decide to respond, that's not grama at all - you caused the sending of the signal. Also, the entire idea of grama being a delay is very questionable and rav schachter (Bikvei HaTzoan Siman 3) and rav willig think it would be asur. | * ''Grama'': The grama is completely illusionary - immediately upon touching it sends signals to the machine and randomly it'll decide to respond, that's not grama at all - you caused the sending of the signal. Also, the entire idea of grama being a delay is very questionable and rav schachter (Bikvei HaTzoan Siman 3) and rav willig think it would be asur. | ||
* ''Eino Kayama'': The non-permanence is not a solution at all. 1) it is still asur m'derabbanan. 2) it is not temporary - anything which lasts as long as you need it to last even if it is erased afterwards isn't temporary. | * ''Eino Kayama'': The non-permanence is not a solution at all. 1) it is still asur m'derabbanan. 2) it is not temporary - anything which lasts as long as you need it to last even if it is erased afterwards isn't temporary. | ||
* ''Zilzul Shabbat': The Gemara Sanhedrin describes a case in which the supreme court in Yerushalayim condemned a person who rode a horse on Shabbat. Even though techinically, riding a horse on Shabbat is only a rabbinic prohibition, it is considered a serious infraction upon the sanctity of Shabbat. Acc to rav moshe, rav schachter, and almost all gedolim this would be forbidden because of zilzul shabbos. | * ''Zilzul Shabbat'': The Gemara Sanhedrin 46a describes a case in which the supreme court in Yerushalayim condemned a person who rode a horse on Shabbat. Even though techinically, riding a horse on Shabbat is only a rabbinic prohibition, it is considered a serious infraction upon the sanctity of Shabbat. Acc to rav moshe, rav schachter, and almost all gedolim this would be forbidden because of zilzul shabbos. | ||
* Bottom line - a person should not use this app on Shabbat (see footnote for details).<ref>[http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/international/new-shabbos-app-creates-uproar-orthodox-circles The Jewish Week] cites Rabbi Moshe Elefant (from the OU) as considering the Shabbos App to be "very distasteful and not permissible on Shabbos.” </ref> If someone wants to become non-Orthodox (and keep half shabbos) they're don't need to ask anyone's permission or pervert halacha to do so, but please don't pretend that it is actually orthodox. <ref>Rav Hershel Schachter (shiur on yutorah 10/3/14) merely mentioned the Shabbos App as a "chiddush" of our generation in a joking manner. He didn't go into any detail as he explained the he didn't know of its details.</ref> | * Bottom line - a person should not use this app on Shabbat (see footnote for details).<ref>[http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/international/new-shabbos-app-creates-uproar-orthodox-circles The Jewish Week] cites Rabbi Moshe Elefant (from the OU) as considering the Shabbos App to be "very distasteful and not permissible on Shabbos.” </ref> If someone wants to become non-Orthodox (and keep half shabbos) they're don't need to ask anyone's permission or pervert halacha to do so, but please don't pretend that it is actually orthodox. <ref>Rav Hershel Schachter (shiur on yutorah 10/3/14) merely mentioned the Shabbos App as a "chiddush" of our generation in a joking manner. He didn't go into any detail as he explained the he didn't know of its details.</ref> | ||
