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# It is permitted for one person to eat fish at the same table as someone eating meat.<ref>The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=45241&st=&pgnum=103&hilite= Shem Chadash (p. 48a)] has a doubt whether or not there is a prohibition for two people to eat fish and meat on the same table since there's a danger to eat them together and dangers are treated more severely than something that is forbidden. On the other hand, we can argue that since in order to permit eating the fish after meat or vice versa you just need to wash you're hands we're not concerned that someone would eat them together without washing his hands. He concludes that it is permitted. Kaf HaChaim 173:6 is lenient when two people are eating together but strict when one person is eating with multiple foods on the table. eating fish and meat is dangerous we're not concerned that people will come to eat them together. However, Kaf HaChaim 116:35 is strict even for two people eating at the same table. Yalkut Yosef (YD 87:84, Isur V'heter v. 3, p. 315) rules that it is permitted since it is dangerous we're not concerned that people will eat them together. This approach can also be found in Yabia Omer YD 6:9. Ohel Yakov 88:7 writes that the minhag is to be lenient to leave fish such as herrig on the table even when someone is eating meat. He cites the Shevet Halevi 6:9 as lenient. See also Chelkat Binyamin 116 s.v. shelo.</ref> | # It is permitted for one person to eat fish at the same table as someone eating meat.<ref>The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=45241&st=&pgnum=103&hilite= Shem Chadash (p. 48a)] has a doubt whether or not there is a prohibition for two people to eat fish and meat on the same table since there's a danger to eat them together and dangers are treated more severely than something that is forbidden. On the other hand, we can argue that since in order to permit eating the fish after meat or vice versa you just need to wash you're hands we're not concerned that someone would eat them together without washing his hands. He concludes that it is permitted. Kaf HaChaim 173:6 is lenient when two people are eating together but strict when one person is eating with multiple foods on the table. eating fish and meat is dangerous we're not concerned that people will come to eat them together. However, Kaf HaChaim 116:35 is strict even for two people eating at the same table. Yalkut Yosef (YD 87:84, Isur V'heter v. 3, p. 315) rules that it is permitted since it is dangerous we're not concerned that people will eat them together. This approach can also be found in Yabia Omer YD 6:9. Ohel Yakov 88:7 writes that the minhag is to be lenient to leave fish such as herrig on the table even when someone is eating meat. He cites the Shevet Halevi 6:9 as lenient. See also Chelkat Binyamin 116 s.v. shelo.</ref> | ||
# It is permitted for one person to eat fish at the same table as someone eating dairy. <ref>Yalkut Yosef (YD 87:84, Isur V'heter v. 3, p. 315). Even though some say that it is forbidden to eat fish with dairy based on Bet Yosef 87:3, nonetheless, there is no issue with having two people eating fish and dairy on the same table as the Mishna Chullin 103b explicitly states that it is permitted to eat dairy at the same table that there is fish.</ref> | # It is permitted for one person to eat fish at the same table as someone eating dairy. <ref>Yalkut Yosef (YD 87:84, Isur V'heter v. 3, p. 315). Even though some say that it is forbidden to eat fish with dairy based on Bet Yosef 87:3, nonetheless, there is no issue with having two people eating fish and dairy on the same table as the Mishna Chullin 103b explicitly states that it is permitted to eat dairy at the same table that there is fish.</ref> | ||
==On the Airplane== | |||
# If one friend is eating meat and another dairy on two airplane trays one next to the other since perhaps it is two trays it is like two tables. On the other hand, it is technically two tables but it is a normal way for people on an airplane to eat together since that is the only convenient way that they can make the table. Therefore, for friends there's the same concern that they'll share food as they would when eating together at the same table.<ref>Maadanei Yom Tov Kitzur Hil. Basar Bchalav p. 30. Rav Gamliel Rabinowitz (Maadanei Hashulchan etc), from meah shaarim, says that you need heker. He discusses this case in his teshuvot Maadanei Melachim 78:4. Rav Moshe Rachamim Shuiv from bnei brak, in Mechkarei Eretz YD 4:4 argues that we never found the gezerah on two tables that are small and close to each other. Hashulchan Hashalem by R' Elazar Ochana 5:5 is lenient for any people eating on a bus, train, or plane on their laps or trays next to each other since they're not eating at the same table. He cites Hilchot Basar Bchalav of R' Hofshteter 2:94.</ref> | |||
# The same would apply to a bus or train with friends sitting next to each other eating milk and meat.<ref>Hashulchan Hashalem by R' Elazar Ochana 5:5</ref> | |||
==Parve Foods on the Table at a Meat Meal== | ==Parve Foods on the Table at a Meat Meal== | ||
