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# Once the time for Mussaf (from [[Olot HaShachar]]) it’s forbidden to eat a meal (more than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) before praying Mussaf, however, it’s permissible to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or a lot of fruit. <Ref>The Gemara Brachot 28b writes that the halacha doesn’t follow Rav Huna who says that it’s forbidden to taste any food before praying Mussaf. The Tur 286:3 writes that even though we don’t hold like Rav Huna we only permit have a snack but a meal is forbidden. The Bet Yosef quotes the Raavad, Rashba, and perhaps the Rabbenu Yerucham who agree. S”A 286:3 writes that it’s forbidden to eat a meal before praying Mussaf but it’s permissible to have a snack. The Magan Avraham 286:2 writes that the snack is the same as before Mincha where S”A 232:3 writes that one may have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and a lot of fruit but not more. </ref>
# Once the time for Mussaf (from [[Olot HaShachar]]) it’s forbidden to eat a meal (more than a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread) before praying Mussaf, however, it’s permissible to have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread or a lot of fruit. <Ref>The Gemara Brachot 28b writes that the halacha doesn’t follow Rav Huna who says that it’s forbidden to taste any food before praying Mussaf. The Tur 286:3 writes that even though we don’t hold like Rav Huna we only permit have a snack but a meal is forbidden. The Bet Yosef quotes the Raavad, Rashba, and perhaps the Rabbenu Yerucham who agree. S”A 286:3 writes that it’s forbidden to eat a meal before praying Mussaf but it’s permissible to have a snack. The Magan Avraham 286:2 writes that the snack is the same as before Mincha where S”A 232:3 writes that one may have a [[KeBaytzah]] of bread and a lot of fruit but not more. </ref>
# The custom is to be lenient to permit eating even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[Mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) before Mussaf after having made Kiddish. <Ref>Shaar HaTzion 286:7 writes that the measure for a meal before [[Mussaf]] in regards to baked mezonot is the same as by Sukkah. Mishna Brurah 639:15-6 (regarding Sukkah) quotes some who say that if one establishes a meal out of the Pas HaBah Bekisnin certainly it requires a Sukkah. However, if one didn’t have it as a meal if one had more than a [[KeBaytzah]] then there’s a dispute whether one needs a Sukkah and if one eats less than a [[KeBaytzah]] then certainly it doesn’t require a Sukkah. Nonetheless, Halichot Shlomo (Tefillah 14:9, pg 179-80) writes that the minhag is to lenient to have even more than a Kabaytzah of baked mezonot. </ref>
# The custom is to be lenient to permit eating even more than a Kabaytzah of baked [[Mezonot]] (cakes and cookies) before Mussaf after having made Kiddish. <Ref>Shaar HaTziyun 286:7 writes that the measure for a meal before [[Mussaf]] in regards to baked mezonot is the same as by Sukkah. Mishna Brurah 639:15-6 (regarding Sukkah) quotes some who say that if one establishes a meal out of the Pas HaBah Bekisnin certainly it requires a Sukkah. However, if one didn’t have it as a meal if one had more than a [[KeBaytzah]] then there’s a dispute whether one needs a Sukkah and if one eats less than a [[KeBaytzah]] then certainly it doesn’t require a Sukkah. Nonetheless, Halichot Shlomo (Tefillah 14:9, pg 179-80) writes that the minhag is to lenient to have even more than a Kabaytzah of baked mezonot. </ref>
# If one does eat before Mussaf one must first do Kiddish and have a [[Revi'it]] of wine or eat a [[Kezayit]] of baked mezonot (cakes and cookies) in order to fulfill Kiddish. <Ref>Magan Avraham 286:1, Buir Halacha 286:3 D”H Achilat, Mishna Brurah 286:7, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 52:17</ref>
# If one does eat before Mussaf one must first do Kiddish and have a [[Revi'it]] of wine or eat a [[Kezayit]] of baked mezonot (cakes and cookies) in order to fulfill Kiddish. <Ref>Magan Avraham 286:1, Buir Halacha 286:3 D”H Achilat, Mishna Brurah 286:7, Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 52:17</ref>
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