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* Most achronim hold like S”A to light at Tzet Hakochavim including the Shaarei Knesset HaGedolah 672:1, Magen Avraham 672:1, Eliyah Raba 672:1, Maamer Mordechai 672:1, Chaye Adam 154:18, Derech HaChaim 672:2, Ben Ish Chai Vayeshev 7, Shulchan lechem Hapanim 672, and Kaf Hachaim 672:2.  
* Most achronim hold like S”A to light at Tzet Hakochavim including the Shaarei Knesset HaGedolah 672:1, Magen Avraham 672:1, Eliyah Raba 672:1, Maamer Mordechai 672:1, Chaye Adam 154:18, Derech HaChaim 672:2, Ben Ish Chai Vayeshev 7, Shulchan lechem Hapanim 672, and Kaf Hachaim 672:2.  
* Thus, Yalkut Yosef 672:1 writes that one should light at tzet hachochavim which is 15 minutes after sunset. [The time of 15 minutes is built off the Geonim's opinion that 13.5 minutes after sunset is Tzet Hakochavim unlike the tzet hachochavim of Rabbenu Tam, which is 72 minutes after sunset because [[Chanukah]] is only derabanan and one can rely on the Minhag Eretz Yisrael for derabanan mitzvoth (Sh”t Yabia Omer 2:21). Additionally, by not lighting until the Tzet Hakochavim of Rabbenu Tam will lead one to light after the latest time for which one doesn’t fulfill the mitzvah according to many poskim (Sefer [[Chanukah]] of Rav Kanievsky pg 13 note 8).] [http://www.halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=1695 Halacha yomit] writes that the time is extrapolated to each place based on 13.5 minutes Sha'ot Zmaniot.  
* Thus, Yalkut Yosef 672:1 writes that one should light at tzet hachochavim which is 15 minutes after sunset. [The time of 15 minutes is built off the Geonim's opinion that 13.5 minutes after sunset is Tzet Hakochavim unlike the tzet hachochavim of Rabbenu Tam, which is 72 minutes after sunset because [[Chanukah]] is only derabanan and one can rely on the Minhag Eretz Yisrael for derabanan mitzvoth (Sh”t Yabia Omer 2:21). Additionally, by not lighting until the Tzet Hakochavim of Rabbenu Tam will lead one to light after the latest time for which one doesn’t fulfill the mitzvah according to many poskim (Sefer [[Chanukah]] of Rav Kanievsky pg 13 note 8).] [http://www.halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=1695 Halacha yomit] writes that the time is extrapolated to each place based on 13.5 minutes Sha'ot Zmaniot.  
* However Pri [[Chadash]] 672 and Buir HaGra O”C 672:1 (see also Beiur HaGra O"C 261 and Y”D 266:17, and Maaseh Rav 235) hold that one should light at sunset. Mishna Brurah 672:1 quotes both the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch and Gra and then writes that if one davens at Tzet Hakochavim one may follow the opinion of the Gra even initially. See also Sh”t Az Nidabru 7:70. Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe O”C 4:101:6 and Rav Chaim Kanievsky in Yemeh [[Hallel]] VeHodah 12:8, say to light 10 minutes after sunset and have it last for a half hour before tzet hachovim and a half hour after tzet hachoavim. Torat HaMoadim 4:1 rules to light 15 minutes after [[shekiah]] [15 minutes is based on the geonim’s tzet hachochavim (3/4 [[mil]]) with the Rav Amram Goan’s lengh of a [[mil]] being 18 minutes, the fact that in the winter the [[shaot Zmaniot]] are shorter, and we add on a few minutes to be strict for Rabbi Yose’s opinion of Ben Hashemashot which only happens after Rabbi Yehuda’s finishes.]  
* However Pri [[Chadash]] 672 and Buir HaGra O”C 672:1 (see also Beiur HaGra O"C 261 and Y”D 266:17, and Maaseh Rav 235) hold that one should light at sunset. Mishna Brurah 672:1 quotes both the opinion of the Shulchan Aruch and Gra and then writes that if one davens at Tzet Hakochavim one may follow the opinion of the Gra even initially. See also Sh”t Az Nidabru 7:70. Rav Moshe Feinstein in Igrot Moshe O”C 4:101:6 and Rav Chaim Kanievsky in Yemeh [[Hallel]] VeHodah 12:8, say to light 10 minutes after sunset and have it last for a half hour before tzet hachovim and a half hour after tzet hachoavim. [[Young_Israel_of_Woodmere_Hilchos_Chanuka|Rav Hershel Schachter (Young Israel of Woodmere Packet)]] also holds one should light 10 minutes after sunset. Torat HaMoadim 4:1 rules to light 15 minutes after [[shekiah]] [15 minutes is based on the geonim’s tzet hachochavim (3/4 [[mil]]) with the Rav Amram Goan’s lengh of a [[mil]] being 18 minutes, the fact that in the winter the [[shaot Zmaniot]] are shorter, and we add on a few minutes to be strict for Rabbi Yose’s opinion of Ben Hashemashot which only happens after Rabbi Yehuda’s finishes.]  
* Igrot Moshe 4:101:6 writes that one should light 10 minutes after sunset with enough oil to last an hour. Shemaytata DeMoshe 672 explains that Rav Moshe held that 10 minutes was sufficient time to be considered the Tzet Hakochavim of the Geonim and it is still within a half hour of sunset. Az Nidbaru 7:70 quotes Rav Aharon Kotler as having said that one should light 25 minutes after sunset. </ref>
* Igrot Moshe 4:101:6 writes that one should light 10 minutes after sunset with enough oil to last an hour. Shemaytata DeMoshe 672 explains that Rav Moshe held that 10 minutes was sufficient time to be considered the Tzet Hakochavim of the Geonim and it is still within a half hour of sunset. Halachos of Chanukah by Rabbi Eider p. 20 cites Rav Moshe Feinstein's practice was to light between 13 and 18 minutes after shekiya. He cites that Rav Aharon Kotler would light 25 minutes after sunset. Az Nidbaru 7:70 agrees.</ref>
# In general, one should not light earlier than [[Shekiyah]] or Tzet Hakochavim, as stated in the previous halacha, except on [[Friday afternoon]] of [[Chanukah]] because once it becomes [[Shabbat]], it will be forbidden to light. But if on a weeknight one will be unable to light after [[Shekiyah]] or Tzet Hakochavim and will miss the mitzvah totally, he should light after Plag HaMincha. Many poskim say that one may light with a bracha in this case, while others say that one should light without a bracha.<ref> The Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:5) and Bahag ([[Chanuka]] p. 25b) hold that one does not fulfill one’s obligation if one lights [[Chanukah]] candles prior to sunset. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 21b), however, writes that after the fact, if one lit them before sunset, one still fulfills one’s obligation. This is also the opinion of the Ran, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim ([[Chanukah]] #15). The Mishna Brurah 672:3 (Shaar HaTziyun 672:5) explains that the Shulchan Aruch 672:1 rules like the Rashba and one may light before sunset with a bracha. This is also the opinion of the Pri [[Chadash]] 672:1 s.v. VeYesh Mi SheOmer and Chaye Adam 154:18. Kaf HaChaim 672:10 however, holds that one shouldn’t make a bracha in such a case. See also the Levush, Bach, Kiseh Rachamim 63a, Siddur Bet Ovad 159b, Moed Kol Chai 27:26, Tefilah Ledavid, Pri Megadim M”Z 673:9, Sefer Yeraim 274, Shaarei Kneset HaGedolah 672:1, and Pri Megadim A”A 672:1. </ref>
# In general, one should not light earlier than [[Shekiyah]] or Tzet Hakochavim, as stated in the previous halacha, except on [[Friday afternoon]] of [[Chanukah]] because once it becomes [[Shabbat]], it will be forbidden to light.
# If someone lit earlier than [[Shekiah]] after Plag Hamincha, he should relight at the proper time of the mitzvah without a bracha. If one lit before Plag Hamincha should relight at the proper time with a bracha. <ref> Torat HaMoadim 4:3 writes that if one lit before [[Shekiyah]], one should relit at night because some Rishonim hold that one doesn't fulfill the mitzvah to light after Plag HaMincha (such as the Rambam and Bahag). However, he adds that one should relight without a bracha in deference to the opinions (Rashba, Ran, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim) who hold that one fulfills his mitzvah then. Torat HaMoadim concludes that if one lit before Plag Hamincha one should relight with a bracha because no one holds that one fulfill the mitzvah at that time. </ref>
# If on a weeknight one will be unable to light after [[Shekiyah]] or Tzet Hakochavim and will miss the mitzvah totally, he should light after Plag HaMincha. Many poskim say that one may light with a bracha in this case, while others say that one should light without a bracha.<ref> The Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:5) and Bahag ([[Chanuka]] p. 25b) hold that one does not fulfill one’s obligation if one lights [[Chanukah]] candles prior to sunset. The Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 21b), however, writes that after the fact, if one lit them before sunset, one still fulfills one’s obligation. This is also the opinion of the Ran, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim ([[Chanukah]] #15). The Mishna Brurah 672:3 (Shaar HaTziyun 672:5) explains that the Shulchan Aruch 672:1 rules like the Rashba and one may light before sunset with a bracha. This is also the opinion of the Pri [[Chadash]] 672:1 s.v. VeYesh Mi SheOmer and Chaye Adam 154:18. Kaf HaChaim 672:10 however, holds that one shouldn’t make a bracha in such a case. See also the Levush, Bach, Kiseh Rachamim 63a, Siddur Bet Ovad 159b, Moed Kol Chai 27:26, Tefilah Ledavid, Pri Megadim M”Z 673:9, Sefer Yeraim 274, Shaarei Kneset HaGedolah 672:1, and Pri Megadim A”A 672:1. </ref> It is preferable to ask someone else to light for you at your house than light yourself before Shekiya after Plag Mincha.<ref>Halachos of Chanukah p. 35 n. 20</ref>
# A boy, who regularly lights at Shkiah, who is becoming [[Bar Mitzvah]] a night of [[Chanukah]], can light at Shkiah as usual. Some say to light at [[Tzet HaKochavim]] even if usually lights at Shkiah. <ref> Sefer [[Chanukah]] of Rav Kenievsky 13:16, Sh”t Teshuvot Vehanhagot 2:337 against Rav Vosner in Kovetz Mebet Levi kislev 5757 says not to light until Tzet. Mikrei Kodesh ([[Chanukah]] 11:3) leaves it as a question. </ref>
# If a person need to go to a wedding with his family before Plag mincha and will come home later that night he should light when they return home.<ref>Halachos of Chanukah p. 36 citing Rav Moshe Feinstein</ref>
# If someone lit earlier than [[Shekiah]] after Plag Hamincha, he should relight at the proper time of the mitzvah without a bracha. If one lit before Plag Hamincha should relight at the proper time with a bracha.<ref> Torat HaMoadim 4:3 writes that if one lit before [[Shekiyah]], one should relit at night because some Rishonim hold that one doesn't fulfill the mitzvah to light after Plag HaMincha (such as the Rambam and Bahag). However, he adds that one should relight without a bracha in deference to the opinions (Rashba, Ran, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim) who hold that one fulfills his mitzvah then. Torat HaMoadim concludes that if one lit before Plag Hamincha one should relight with a bracha because no one holds that one fulfill the mitzvah at that time. </ref>
# A boy, who regularly lights at Shkiah, who is becoming [[Bar Mitzvah]] a night of [[Chanukah]], can light at Shkiah as usual. Some say to light at [[Tzet HaKochavim]] even if usually lights at Shkiah.<ref> Sefer [[Chanukah]] of Rav Kenievsky 13:16, Sh”t Teshuvot Vehanhagot 2:337 against Rav Vosner in Kovetz Mebet Levi kislev 5757 says not to light until Tzet. Mikrei Kodesh ([[Chanukah]] 11:3) leaves it as a question. </ref>


== Latest Time to Light==
== Latest Time to Light==
# One shouldn’t delay lighting the [[Chanukah]] candles at the ideal time (see above), but if one didn't light until after the time that people left the marketplace, one should nonetheless light. However, while some say that one may only recite the bracha if some of the household members are awake, others hold that it’s proper to wake up some of the family, but if one can’t, he should still light with a bracha. <ref>  
# One shouldn’t delay lighting the [[Chanukah]] candles at the ideal time (see above), but if one didn't light until after the time that people left the marketplace, one should nonetheless light. However, while some say that one may only recite the bracha if some of the household members are awake, others hold that it’s proper to wake up some of the family, but if one can’t, he should still light with a bracha.<ref>  
* The Gemara [[Shabbat]] 21b has two explanations of the Briatta's language of ‘Tichleh Regel Min HaShuk’ (once people leave the market). The first explanation is ‘if one didn’t light, one can still light’ and the other explanation is that one must put in enough oil to last until the time people leave the market. The Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:5) rules that one who didn’t light at the beginning of the night, one can still light until ‘Tichleh Regel’. The Bach 672 explains that the Rambam understood that the two answers of the gemara are complementary and so he rules based on the first answer that one may only light until the time people leave the market. Magid Mishna, Bahag ([[Chanukah]] pg 25d), Sh”t HaGoanim Sharei Teshuva 233, Riaz, Rid, Shiltei Giborim, Smak 280, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 2:265), Ran, Sefer HaTrumah 228, Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 2:3), Tur 672, Pri [[Chadash]], Maamer Mordechai  672:4, Sh”t Sadeh Aretz O”C 35 s.v. VaAni, hold like the Rambam that after ‘Tichle Regel there’s no mitzvah to light. Therefore, Meiri, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim ([[Chanukah]] 15) say to light after then without a bracha.  
* The Gemara [[Shabbat]] 21b has two explanations of the Briatta's language of ‘Tichleh Regel Min HaShuk’ (once people leave the market). The first explanation is ‘if one didn’t light, one can still light’ and the other explanation is that one must put in enough oil to last until the time people leave the market. The Rambam ([[Chanukah]] 4:5) rules that one who didn’t light at the beginning of the night, one can still light until ‘Tichleh Regel’. The Bach 672 explains that the Rambam understood that the two answers of the gemara are complementary and so he rules based on the first answer that one may only light until the time people leave the market. Magid Mishna, Bahag ([[Chanukah]] pg 25d), Sh”t HaGoanim Sharei Teshuva 233, Riaz, Rid, Shiltei Giborim, Smak 280, Mordechai ([[Shabbat]] 2:265), Ran, Sefer HaTrumah 228, Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 2:3), Tur 672, Pri [[Chadash]], Maamer Mordechai  672:4, Sh”t Sadeh Aretz O”C 35 s.v. VaAni, hold like the Rambam that after ‘Tichle Regel there’s no mitzvah to light. Therefore, Meiri, Ritva, and Orchot Chaim ([[Chanukah]] 15) say to light after then without a bracha.  
* However, Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. Deiy Lo Adlik) writes that according to the second answer of the gemara one may light all night. However, in deference to the first answer if people have already left the market one should only light without a bracha. The Gra (Maaseh Rav n. 236) seems to side with this opinion of Tosfot. However, the Ri (Tosfot [[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. Deiy Lo Adlik) raises the point that since nowadays we light indoors and there is pirsumei nisa for the family members, one may light even after the time that people have left the marketplace.
* However, Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. Deiy Lo Adlik) writes that according to the second answer of the gemara one may light all night. However, in deference to the first answer if people have already left the market one should only light without a bracha. The Gra (Maaseh Rav n. 236) seems to side with this opinion of Tosfot. However, the Ri (Tosfot [[Shabbat]] 21b s.v. Deiy Lo Adlik) raises the point that since nowadays we light indoors and there is pirsumei nisa for the family members, one may light even after the time that people have left the marketplace.
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* See also the Magen Avraham quotes Maharshal who says to make a bracha only up to [[Chatzot]]. The Gra (Maaseh Rav 236) agrees with the Maharshal.  
* See also the Magen Avraham quotes Maharshal who says to make a bracha only up to [[Chatzot]]. The Gra (Maaseh Rav 236) agrees with the Maharshal.  
* The Rif (9b), Rambam ([[Chanuka]] 4:5), and Rosh (2:3) all write that the time that people leave the marketplace is one half-hour after the time for lighting begins. Tur and S”A 672:2 codify this as halacha. However, the Ritva 21b s.v. Ad points out that this amount of time is not an objective time period, but rather is dependent on the time and place. Therefore, Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Hilchos [[Chanukah]] and [[Purim]] #1, min 19-20) rules that although the minhag of some yeshivot is to light about 20 minutes after sunset (see note 1), one may light as long as people are walking in the streets, which in a yeshiva could be very late indeed. </ref>
* The Rif (9b), Rambam ([[Chanuka]] 4:5), and Rosh (2:3) all write that the time that people leave the marketplace is one half-hour after the time for lighting begins. Tur and S”A 672:2 codify this as halacha. However, the Ritva 21b s.v. Ad points out that this amount of time is not an objective time period, but rather is dependent on the time and place. Therefore, Rabbi Mordechai Willig (Hilchos [[Chanukah]] and [[Purim]] #1, min 19-20) rules that although the minhag of some yeshivot is to light about 20 minutes after sunset (see note 1), one may light as long as people are walking in the streets, which in a yeshiva could be very late indeed. </ref>
# Someone who came home right before [[Olot HaShachar]] can light with a bracha even though it won’t be lit for 30 minutes during the night. Some say one should light without a bracha if there’s not 30 minutes for the candle to be light at night. <ref> Sh”t [[Shevet Halevi]] 8:156 writes that one can light with a bracha even if there’s not 30 minutes for the candles to burn before [[Olot Hashachar]]. He proves this from the simple language of S”A, Magen Avraham and Mishna Brurah (and all other poskim) that one can light all night until [[Olot HaShachar]]. So writes Sh”t Rivovot Efraim 5:582 in name of Sh”t Shem MeShimon 3 pg 120. Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 67) seems to agree because he quotes the Shevet HaLevi and no one who argues. Yalkut Yosef Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 672:2. However, Rav Elyashiv in Sefer [[Chanukah]] 13:13 and Torat HaYoledet 54:7 say not to light with a bracha unless there’s 30 minutes before [[Olot HaShachar]]. </ref>
# Someone who came home right before [[Olot HaShachar]] can light with a bracha even though it won’t be lit for 30 minutes during the night. Some say one should light without a bracha if there’s not 30 minutes for the candle to be light at night.<ref> Sh”t [[Shevet Halevi]] 8:156 writes that one can light with a bracha even if there’s not 30 minutes for the candles to burn before [[Alot Hashachar]]. He proves this from the simple language of S”A, Magen Avraham and Mishna Brurah (and all other poskim) that one can light all night until [[Olot HaShachar]]. So writes Sh”t Rivovot Efraim 5:582 in name of Sh”t Shem MeShimon 3 pg 120. Chazon Ovadiah ([[Chanukah]] pg 67) seems to agree because he quotes the Shevet HaLevi and no one who argues. Yalkut Yosef Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 672:2. However, Rav Elyashiv in Sefer [[Chanukah]] 13:13 and Torat HaYoledet 54:7 say not to light with a bracha unless there’s 30 minutes before [[Olot HaShachar]]. </ref>
# Some poskim hold that one should wait for his wife because of Shalom Bayit even if that means missing lighting precisely at the time for lighting. <ref> Emet LeYacov 677 in the footnote, Kovetz MeBet Levi kislev 5757, Rav Mordechai Willig (oral communication, Halachipedia Chanuka Packet 5775). </ref>  
# One who didn’t light at night (before [[Olot HaShachar]]) can’t light during the day, but if one wants, one can light without a bracha.<ref> S”A 672:2. Siddur Rashi 116 pg 151 (quoting Teshuvat Rabbenu Yitzchak Bar Yehuda) says if one didn’t light during the night one can’t light during the day. Sh”t Maaseh Goenim 55 pg 43, Teshuvat Rashi 52, Machsor Vitri 237 pg 201, Sh”t Maharam MeRotenberg 634, Pardes HaGadol 199, Tur 672, Shibolei HaLeket 185, and Roke’ach 226 quote this as well. Ravyah 3:843 in name of Rabbenu Tam says one can light in the day if one didn’t light at night. Sh”t Hitorerut Teshuva 1:119 writes that since we light nowadays indoors one should light as long as the candle gives off light (before [[HaNetz]], when the sun’s light overwhelms the candles light). However, Rav Ovadyah in Kol Sinai (kislev 5725) and Torat HaMoadim 4:5 argue that even though one should light to satisfy all opinions one isn’t allowed to make a bracha. </ref>
# Sephardic poskim hold that it is preferable to light at the right time by asking your wife to light rather than light yourself after a half hour after Tzet Hakochavim. Ashkenazic poskim debate the matter. <ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 3:51) writes that it is preferable to ask one’s wife to light for him at Tzeit HaKochavim, rather than light later at home by oneself. The idea of Mitzvah Bo Yoter Mbshelucho is only if you can fulfill it in an equally ideal fashion, however, since if you light later that is not ideal it is better to fulfill the mitzvah yourself now. Yalkut Yosef Chanuka p. 382 rules exactly the same thing for someone at work late he should ask his wife to light on time. Torat Hamoadim Chanuka 4:6 and Or Letzion 4:43:4 agree. He even extends it to the case where neither the husband or wife is home and he says that you should ask a neighbor to light for you. Mayan Omer v. 3 p. 343 also quotes Rav Ovadia as saying that you should ask your wife to light for you on time instead of later. However, he also quotes Rav Ovadia from personal communication that if the whole family is away until very late Rav Ovadia said it is better to light later when you get back rather than ask a neighbor to light for you as a shaliach. Mayan Omer distinguishes between the two cases because the wife is more shayach to your house to be yotzei there than a neighbor. Also, he says that since everyone is coming home later there's a mitzvah for them to see the candles so that's a reason to have them light later but if the wife can light earlier then at least she can see the candles. Mayan Omer quotes Ben Ish Chai in Rav Poalim YD 2:35 that is similar to Rav Ovadia's approach. (As a contradictory piece of evidence, Rav Eliyahu Shtarit in Rabbenu p. 30 quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef as having allowed him to light later than tzet hakoachim himself rather than have his wife light for him ontime. Also, he quotes Rav Dovid Yosef as saying that Rav Ovadia Yosef did that himself.)
# Soldiers in the army who can’t light at night for security reasons and want to light while it’s still day and extinguish it before it gets dark can light without a bracha.<ref> Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 210) </ref>
* Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’hanhagot 4:170) agrees, but adds that the husband should still light when he gets home. He may even recite the bracha if he had in mind not to fulfill his obligation earlier with his wife and some people in the house are still awake. Rav Vosner (Shevet Halevi 4:66) raises a doubt as to which is preferable, and concludes that it is probably preferable for the husband to light later that night by himself.</ref>
==Coming Home Late from Work==
# One who didn’t light at night (before [[Olot HaShachar]]) can’t light during the day, but if one wants, one can light without a bracha. <ref> S”A 672:2. Siddur Rashi 116 pg 151 (quoting Teshuvat Rabbenu Yitzchak Bar Yehuda) says if one didn’t light during the night one can’t light during the day. Sh”t Maaseh Goenim 55 pg 43, Teshuvat Rashi 52, Machsor Vitri 237 pg 201, Sh”t Maharam MeRotenberg 634, Pardes HaGadol 199, Tur 672, Shibolei HaLeket 185, and Roke’ach 226 quote this as well. Ravyah 3:843 in name of Rabbenu Tam says one can light in the day if one didn’t light at night. Sh”t Hitorerut Teshuva 1:119 writes that since we light nowadays indoors one should light as long as the candle gives off light (before [[HaNetz]], when the sun’s light overwhelms the candles light). However, Rav Ovadyah in Kol Sinai (kislev 5725) and Torat HaMoadim 4:5 argue that even though one should light to satisfy all opinions one isn’t allowed to make a bracha. </ref>
# Some poskim hold that one should wait for his wife because of Shalom Bayit even if that means missing lighting precisely at the time for lighting.<ref> Emet LeYacov 677 in the footnote, Kovetz MeBet Levi kislev 5757, Halachos of Chanukah by Rabbi Eider p. 34 n. 8 citing Rav Moshe Feinstein, Rav Mordechai Willig (oral communication, Halachipedia Chanuka Packet 5775).</ref>  
# Soldiers in the army who can’t light at night for security reasons and want to light while it’s still day and extinguish it before it gets dark can light without a bracha. <ref> Yalkut Yosef (Moadim pg 210) </ref>
# Sephardic poskim hold that it is preferable to light at the right time by asking your wife to light rather than light yourself after a half hour after Tzet Hakochavim. Ashkenazic poskim debate the matter.<ref>Rav Ovadia Yosef (Yechave Daat 3:51) writes that it is preferable to ask one’s wife to light for him at Tzeit HaKochavim, rather than light later at home by oneself. The idea of Mitzvah Bo Yoter Mbshelucho is only if you can fulfill it in an equally ideal fashion, however, since if you light later that is not ideal it is better to fulfill the mitzvah yourself now. Yalkut Yosef Chanuka p. 382 rules exactly the same thing for someone at work late he should ask his wife to light on time. Torat Hamoadim Chanuka 4:6 and Or Letzion 4:43:4 agree. He even extends it to the case where neither the husband or wife is home and he says that you should ask a neighbor to light for you. Mayan Omer v. 3 p. 343 also quotes Rav Ovadia as saying that you should ask your wife to light for you on time instead of later. However, he also quotes Rav Ovadia from personal communication that if the whole family is away until very late Rav Ovadia said it is better to light later when you get back rather than ask a neighbor to light for you as a shaliach. Mayan Omer distinguishes between the two cases because the wife is more shayach to your house to be yotzei there than a neighbor. Also, he says that since everyone is coming home later there's a mitzvah for them to see the candles so that's a reason to have them light later but if the wife can light earlier then at least she can see the candles. Mayan Omer quotes Ben Ish Chai in Rav Poalim YD 2:35 that is similar to Rav Ovadia's approach. (As a contradictory piece of evidence, Rav Eliyahu Shtarit in Rabbenu p. 30 quotes Rav Ovadia Yosef as having allowed him to light later than tzet hakoachim himself rather than have his wife light for him on time. Also, he quotes Rav Dovid Yosef as saying that Rav Ovadia Yosef did that himself. To clarify, Rav Yitzchak Yosef in a [https://www.torahanytime.com/#/lectures?v=71848 Motzei Shabbat Shiur Vayeshev 5779 min 29] explained that his father used to give shiurim until very late like 11pm and then come home and light. His mother didn't want to light herself despite the fact that he asked her to.)
* Rav Shternbuch (Teshuvot V’hanhagot 4:170) agrees, but adds that the husband should still light when he gets home. He may even recite the bracha if he had in mind not to fulfill his obligation earlier with his wife and some people in the house are still awake. Rav Vosner (Shevet Halevi 4:66) raises a doubt as to which is preferable, and concludes that it is probably preferable for the husband to light later that night by himself.</ref> The minhag is for the wife to wait for the husband to come home to light.<Ref> Halachos of Chanukah by Rabbi Eider p. 34 n. 3 writes that if someone can't be home at the proper time but will get home before it is too late to light, that is while someone will still be a awake inside he shouldn't ask his his wife to light for him but to light himself when he gets home, especially if he's generally not careful to light at the earliest time. He concludes that such is the minhag. On p. 35 fnt. 22 he quotes that Rav Moshe Feinstein (Moadei Yeshurun n. 28) agreed that it is better to light yourself later than have someone else light for you on time.</ref>


== Lighting before or after Mariv==
== Lighting before or after Mariv==
# One who came home late and has to pray [[Mariv]] and light candles should pray first. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah ([[Chanukah]] pg 71) and Mishna Brurah (explained in Beiur Halacha) 672:1 brings two proofs :1)Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 23b s.v. Hadar) says Tadir VeShEno Tadir, Tadir Kodem (the more common mitzvah comes first) overrides the mitzvah of Pirsume Nisa (publicizing the miracle. This is also the opinion of Meiri ([[Shabbat]] 23b) in name of Gedolei Dorot, Ran ([[Shabbat]] 23b), Ramban ([[Shabbat]] 22b), Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 2:13), Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 22b), Teshuvat Rashba 1:1070, Rabbenu Yerucham (p. 61d 2). Also, [[Kriyat Shema]] is Deoritta and lighting candles is Derabanan and Peni Yehoshua [[Brachot]] 51b, Nodeh BeYehuda Kama O”C 39,41e, and Sh”t Rama MePano 14 hold Deorittas precede a Derabanan. Even though the Shagat Aryeh argues that Deorittas don’t have any precedence over Derabanan’s, most of the achronim agree with the Peni Yehoshua including: Sh”t Imrei Esh O”C 53, Mispeh Eitan ([[Brachot]] 51b), Chatom Sofer (Pesachim 102b), and Sh”t Shev Yacov O”C 22. However Magen Avraham 672:5 rules one should light before praying [[Mariv]]. Because of Tadir and [[Shema]] is Deoritta, Sh”t Shevut Yacov 2:40, Sh”t Shev Yacov 22 quoted by Sh”t Orach LeChaim O”C 1, implied from Sh”t Lechem Seirim 21, Shoel UMeishiv (Riviah 2:219) and Chaim VeChesed Mosefia pg 90d:11 in name of Mahari MeTaril disagree with the Magen Avraham. Chidushei Maharsa 8b says that everyone agrees that if it’s close to [[Chatzot]] one should pray before lighting because preferably one should pray before [[Chatzot]]. [Bear Hetev 672:2 quotes Magen Avraham and then says so holds Knesset Hagedolah. However Shaarei Teshuva 672:1 says that the Bear Hetev made a mistake about the Knesset Hagedolah as appears from Sh”t Shevut Yacov. Sh”t Shevut Yacov quotes the Shaarei Knesset Hagedolah (Hagahot Hatur 672:1) who writes that he retracted from his opinion that one should light before praying. ]  </ref>
# One who came home late and has to pray [[Mariv]] and light candles should pray first.<ref> Chazon Ovadyah ([[Chanukah]] pg 71) and Mishna Brurah (explained in Beiur Halacha) 672:1 brings two proofs :1)Tosfot ([[Shabbat]] 23b s.v. Hadar) says Tadir VeShEno Tadir, Tadir Kodem (the more common mitzvah comes first) overrides the mitzvah of Pirsume Nisa (publicizing the miracle. This is also the opinion of Meiri ([[Shabbat]] 23b) in name of Gedolei Dorot, Ran ([[Shabbat]] 23b), Ramban ([[Shabbat]] 22b), Rosh ([[Shabbat]] 2:13), Rashba ([[Shabbat]] 22b), Teshuvat Rashba 1:1070, Rabbenu Yerucham (p. 61d 2). Also, [[Kriyat Shema]] is Deoritta and lighting candles is Derabanan and Peni Yehoshua [[Brachot]] 51b, Nodeh BeYehuda Kama O”C 39,41e, and Sh”t Rama MePano 14 hold Deorittas precede a Derabanan. Even though the Shagat Aryeh argues that Deorittas don’t have any precedence over Derabanan’s, most of the achronim agree with the Peni Yehoshua including: Sh”t Imrei Esh O”C 53, Mispeh Eitan ([[Brachot]] 51b), Chatom Sofer (Pesachim 102b), and Sh”t Shev Yacov O”C 22. However Magen Avraham 672:5 rules one should light before praying [[Mariv]]. Because of Tadir and [[Shema]] is Deoritta, Sh”t Shevut Yacov 2:40, Sh”t Shev Yacov 22 quoted by Sh”t Orach LeChaim O”C 1, implied from Sh”t Lechem Seirim 21, Shoel UMeishiv (Riviah 2:219) and Chaim VeChesed Mosefia pg 90d:11 in name of Mahari MeTaril disagree with the Magen Avraham. Chidushei Maharsa 8b says that everyone agrees that if it’s close to [[Chatzot]] one should pray before lighting because preferably one should pray before [[Chatzot]]. [Bear Hetev 672:2 quotes Magen Avraham and then says so holds Knesset Hagedolah. However Shaarei Teshuva 672:1 says that the Bear Hetev made a mistake about the Knesset Hagedolah as appears from Sh”t Shevut Yacov. Sh”t Shevut Yacov quotes the Shaarei Knesset Hagedolah (Hagahot Hatur 672:1) who writes that he retracted from his opinion that one should light before praying. ]  </ref>
# Sephardim have the Minhag to pray [[Mariv]] at Shkiah and to light individually at Tzet. So too, if the [[minyan]] prays at Tzet they should pray and then light individually unless there’s a concern that they won’t be able to light before ‘Tichle Regel’, in which case each individual should light before praying. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after [[Mariv]] one can light right away.  <ref> Torat HaMoadim 4:8 and Kaf Hachaim 672:5 say that because of Tadir we pray and then light. Chida in Machzik Bracha 672:3, Sh”t Mahari Halevi 1:182, says if there’s a concern of missing ‘Tichle Regel’ one could light first. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# Sephardim have the Minhag to pray [[Mariv]] at Shkiah and to light individually at Tzet. So too, if the [[minyan]] prays at Tzet they should pray and then light individually unless there’s a concern that they won’t be able to light before ‘Tichle Regel’, in which case each individual should light before praying. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after [[Mariv]] one can light right away.  <ref> Torat HaMoadim 4:8 and Kaf Hachaim 672:5 say that because of Tadir we pray and then light. Chida in Machzik Bracha 672:3, Sh”t Mahari Halevi 1:182, says if there’s a concern of missing ‘Tichle Regel’ one could light first. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# Ashkenzim who have the Minhag to pray at Tzet, should light at Shkiah before praying [[Mariv]] at Tzet. If Tzet came and one didn’t light he should first pray and then light. However some have the Minhag to always light after praying [[Mariv]]. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after [[Mariv]] one can light right away. <ref> Mishna Brurah 672:1 in name of Mor Ukesiah and the Minhag of the Gra to light before they prayed at Tzet, if one didn’t light until Tzet one prays first because of Tadir and that [[Shema]] is Deoritta. He also records the practice of some who would always light after [[Mariv]]. Torat HaMoadim 4:8 agrees. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# Ashkenzim who have the Minhag to pray at Tzet, should light at Shkiah before praying [[Mariv]] at Tzet. If Tzet came and one didn’t light he should first pray and then light. However some have the Minhag to always light after praying [[Mariv]]. One should set up the chanukia and candles before Tzet so that after [[Mariv]] one can light right away.<ref> Mishna Brurah 672:1 in name of Mor Ukesiah and the Minhag of the Gra to light before they prayed at Tzet, if one didn’t light until Tzet one prays first because of Tadir and that [[Shema]] is Deoritta. He also records the practice of some who would always light after [[Mariv]]. Torat HaMoadim 4:8 agrees. One should set it up beforehand as per Mishna Brurah 672:1 and Kaf Hachaim 672:6. </ref>
# If one has an established [[minyan]] for [[Mariv]] very late, one can light earlier than [[Mariv]] at [[Tzet HaKochavim]]. <ref> Yeshuot Yacov 681:1, Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:47, Sh”t Teshuvot VeHanhagot 2:338, Mitzvah Ner Ish Ubeto (6 footnote 4), and Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Halichot Yosef p. 239) say that the reason of Tadir (and that [[Shema]] is Deoritta) only applies if the two [[mitzvot]] ([[mariv]] and [[Chanukah]] candles) are both available at the same time, but if one mitzvah is later, such as if one goes to a [[Maariv]] [[minyan]] later, one can light earlier at the appropriate time. See, however, Igrot Moshe 4:99:1 who seems to disagree with this point (See the [[Sefirat HaOmer#When to count Sefira]] page about this). </ref>
# If one has an established [[minyan]] for [[Mariv]] very late, one can light earlier than [[Mariv]] at [[Tzet HaKochavim]].<ref> Yeshuot Yacov 681:1, Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:47, Sh”t Teshuvot VeHanhagot 2:338, Mitzvah Ner Ish Ubeto (6 footnote 4), and Rav Elyashiv (quoted in Halichot Yosef p. 239) say that the reason of Tadir (and that [[Shema]] is Deoritta) only applies if the two [[mitzvot]] ([[mariv]] and [[Chanukah]] candles) are both available at the same time, but if one mitzvah is later, such as if one goes to a [[Maariv]] [[minyan]] later, one can light earlier at the appropriate time. See, however, Igrot Moshe 4:99:1 who seems to disagree with this point (See the [[Sefirat HaOmer#When to count Sefira]] page about this). </ref>
==If one is in middle of something==
==If one is in middle of something==
# If a person is in the middle of a [[seder]] of learning, many poskim hold that one should wait until the end of the [[seder]] to light [[Chanukah]] candles. <Ref> Meiri ([[Shabbat]] 21b) writes that in France, the minhag of the bnei yeshiva was to wait to light [[Chanukah]] candles until after they finished learning in the beit midrash. Rav Hershel Schachter (MPeninei HaRav pp. 188-9; Halachipedia Article 5773 #9) quoted Rav Soloveitchik as having ruled that if someone is in middle of a [[seder]] of learning, such as the kollel’s afternoon [[seder]], one should wait until the end of the [[seder]] in order to light [[Chanukah]] candles.  
# If a person is in the middle of a [[seder]] of learning, many poskim hold that one should wait until the end of the [[seder]] to light [[Chanukah]] candles. <Ref> Meiri ([[Shabbat]] 21b) writes that in France, the minhag of the bnei yeshiva was to wait to light [[Chanukah]] candles until after they finished learning in the beit midrash. Rav Hershel Schachter (MPeninei HaRav pp. 188-9; Halachipedia Article 5773 #9) quoted Rav Soloveitchik as having ruled that if someone is in middle of a [[seder]] of learning, such as the kollel’s afternoon [[seder]], one should wait until the end of the [[seder]] in order to light [[Chanukah]] candles.  
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