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# Many say that instant mashed potatoes are HaAdama since the result retains a resemblance of the original vegetable. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 407, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman, Rabbi Chaim Pinchas Scheinburg, and Rav Elyashiv. Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (3:12 p. 37) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein as saying that instant mashed potatoes are HaAdama. Halacha Brurah 202:25 agrees.</ref> | # Many say that instant mashed potatoes are HaAdama since the result retains a resemblance of the original vegetable. <Ref> Veten Bracha (Halachos of Brochos by Rabbi Bodner pg 407, chapter 22) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman, Rabbi Chaim Pinchas Scheinburg, and Rav Elyashiv. Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (3:12 p. 37) quotes Rav Moshe Feinstein as saying that instant mashed potatoes are HaAdama. Halacha Brurah 202:25 agrees.</ref> | ||
==Bamba== | ==Bamba== | ||
#Many are of the opinion that since the corn flour is totally unrecognizable, Bamba is Shehakol.<Ref>Vezot Habracha pg. 389, Birkhot Eliyahu pg. 100</ref> However, some claim that since the corn is grown specifically for Bamba, and there are few ingredients but the puffed corn flour itself, the Beracha remains Haadama.<Ref>Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef (Yalkut Yosef Kitzur Shulchan Aruch vol. 1 Siman 203 Seif 6), where he testifies that he saw his father (Chacham Ovadia Yosef) make a Haadama on Bamba publicly on Pesach. The gist of Rav Yitzchak Yosef's argument is that the species of corn used in all the different Bamba recipes is different from the standardncorn eaten world wide, in shape, color, and edibility. Since it is only grown for Bamba and popcorn, and it remains discernable throughout the cooking process (he went to the factory to see for himself), it's Beracha is Haadama. He claims that he has received his father's support numerous times in writing and in the context of his father's shiurim. See further Yalkut Yosef vol. 3 on Berachot (page 422 and in the Miluim at the end of the volume), Ein Yitzchak (Vol. 2, pg 577), Yated HaMeir journal (Tamuz 5765), Shulchan HaMaarechet (Vol. 1, pg 428), Yalkut Yosef Berachot (5771, articles in the end of the Sefer, Siman 6, found in Otzar HaChochma). See Rabbi David Yosef (Halacha Berurah vol. 8 pg 222) who claims like the first opinion in the name of his father that anything that undergoes a change of shape and taste becomes Shehakol. Though he doesn't explicitly reference Bamba, he is widely quoted to disagree with the Yalkut Yosef on this matter by [http://matzav.com/bamba-bracha-blitz popular media outlets] specifically because the corn for Bamba is not grown just for Bamba and such parameters are likely to change. See Haskama in introduction to the 10th volume, where his father seems to support his opinion of saying shehakol. [http://www.ykr.org.il/modules/Ask/answer/4841 Rabbi Meir Mazuz ] also says to say shehakol on Bamba. [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=129580 Rabbi Avraham Yosef] agrees but adds that if one says haadama that is good too. </ref> | #Many are of the opinion that since the corn flour is totally unrecognizable, Bamba is Shehakol.<Ref>Vezot Habracha pg. 389, Birkhot Eliyahu pg. 100</ref> However, some claim that since the corn is grown specifically for Bamba, and there are few ingredients but the puffed corn flour itself, the Beracha remains Haadama.<Ref>Rabbi Yitzchak Yosef (Yalkut Yosef Kitzur Shulchan Aruch vol. 1 Siman 203 Seif 6), where he testifies that he saw his father (Chacham Ovadia Yosef) make a Haadama on Bamba publicly on Pesach. The gist of Rav Yitzchak Yosef's argument is that the species of corn used in all the different Bamba recipes is different from the standardncorn eaten world wide, in shape, color, and edibility. Since it is only grown for Bamba and popcorn, and it remains discernable throughout the cooking process (he went to the factory to see for himself), it's Beracha is Haadama. He claims that he has received his father's support numerous times in writing and in the context of his father's shiurim. See further Yalkut Yosef vol. 3 on Berachot (page 422 and in the Miluim at the end of the volume), Ein Yitzchak (Vol. 2, pg 577), Yated HaMeir journal (Tamuz 5765), Shulchan HaMaarechet (Vol. 1, pg 428), Yalkut Yosef Berachot (5771, articles in the end of the Sefer, Siman 6, found in Otzar HaChochma). See Rabbi David Yosef (Halacha Berurah vol. 8 pg 222) who claims like the first opinion in the name of his father that anything that undergoes a change of shape and taste becomes Shehakol. Though he doesn't explicitly reference Bamba, he is widely quoted to disagree with the Yalkut Yosef on this matter by [http://matzav.com/bamba-bracha-blitz popular media outlets] specifically because the corn for Bamba is not grown just for Bamba and such parameters are likely to change. See Haskama in introduction to the 10th volume, where his father seems to support his opinion of saying shehakol. [http://www.ykr.org.il/modules/Ask/answer/4841 Rabbi Meir Mazuz ] also says to say shehakol on Bamba. [http://shut.moreshet.co.il/shut2.asp?id=129580 Rabbi Avraham Yosef] agrees but adds that if one says haadama that is good too. Most recentl, Rav Yitzchak Yosef reviewed the issue at length in his Motzei Shabbat Shiur ([http://maran.hug.co.il/home/doc.aspx?mCatID=70&icid=52&mode=s Beshalach 5775, about 50:00]). He tells the story about how originally everyone thought the Beracha was Shehakol, until he chanced upon touring the Bamba factory in Migdal HaEmek, was showed the entire process from start to finish, and discussed it with his father, who agreed that it should be Shehakol. That very year, his father made a Haadama on Bambma at the Seder and instructed the rest of the family to do the same.</ref> | ||
==Sources== | ==Sources== | ||
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[[Category:Brachot]] | [[Category:Brachot]] | ||
