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# If one skipped [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] and then made a mistake in [[Shmoneh Esrei]] for which he needs to repeat (forgetting Yaleh VeYavo on [[Rosh Chodesh]]), since he has to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] again he should first say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] with the Shem Umalchut in the Baruch Sh’amar and Yishtabach. <ref> Hagahot Rabbi Akiva Eiger 52 says if one forgot to say mashiv haruach one should say Pesukei Dezimrah with Brachot before he repeats [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. Maharsham in Daat Torah 52 quotes Sh”t Tiferet Tzvi 15 who agrees to Rabbi Akiva Eiger but says on [[Rosh Chodesh]] one should first say [[Hallel]] with the tzibbur before saying [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] but then one can only say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] without Brachot since [[Hallel]] fulfills the obligation of saying praise from Tehilim for the day. Torat Chaim Sofer 52e says against the Rabbi Akiva Eiger so that one should repeat immediately so as not to interrupt between Geulah and Tefillah. Halacha Brurah 52:2 holds like Rabbi Akiva Eiger, Daat Torah, and Sh”t Tiferet Tzvi since anyway one is repeating [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one has to first prepare with praise as in [[Pesukei DeZimrah]]. Lumdus in Halacha: [Birur Halacha 52:3 says one could argue on the Rabbi Akiva Eiger based on the dispute of Rishonim (Tosfot Brachot 26b) whether one goes back for a [[Shmoneh Esrei]] that one forgot the Yaleh VeYavo can repeat if he is not able to add the Yaleh Veyavo in the Tashlumin. According to one opinion one can return since it is as if one did not pray at all and according to the other opinion one may not repeat because he has nothing to add. So too according to the opinion that it is not as if he did not pray at all, then one should not be able to say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] with Brachot. Perhaps one can answer that only by Yaleh VeYavo which is just an addition is there a dispute if the [[Shmoneh Esrei]] counts, but by Mashiv HaRuach or Ten Tal UMatar which is part of the words of the bracha everyone agrees that it is considered as if one did not pray. Rav Chaim MeBrisk (Shuirei Grach pg 74) agrees. Thus, only by Mashiv HaRuach does Rabbi Akiva Eiger say you can say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] but not for Yaleh VeYavo. However we do not pasken like this idea because Yalkut Yosef 1 pg 238 says that Ten Tal UMatar is even more of an addition since if one remembers within the Shema Esreh Ten Tal UMatar can be said even in Shema Kolenu but Yaleh Veyavo requires you to return to the beginning of the Bracha Ratzeh. So writes the Sh”t Har Tzvi O”C 54, Magen Avraham 108:16, Sh”t Chesed LeAvraham (Mehudra Tanina 20)] </ref> [Seemingly this is only if one already missed [[davening]] Shema Esreh with a [[minyan]], meaning starting [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Chazan.] | # If one skipped [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] and then made a mistake in [[Shmoneh Esrei]] for which he needs to repeat (forgetting Yaleh VeYavo on [[Rosh Chodesh]]), since he has to say [[Shmoneh Esrei]] again he should first say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] with the Shem Umalchut in the Baruch Sh’amar and Yishtabach. <ref> Hagahot Rabbi Akiva Eiger 52 says if one forgot to say mashiv haruach one should say Pesukei Dezimrah with Brachot before he repeats [[Shmoneh Esrei]]. Maharsham in Daat Torah 52 quotes Sh”t Tiferet Tzvi 15 who agrees to Rabbi Akiva Eiger but says on [[Rosh Chodesh]] one should first say [[Hallel]] with the tzibbur before saying [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] but then one can only say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] without Brachot since [[Hallel]] fulfills the obligation of saying praise from Tehilim for the day. Torat Chaim Sofer 52e says against the Rabbi Akiva Eiger so that one should repeat immediately so as not to interrupt between Geulah and Tefillah. Halacha Brurah 52:2 holds like Rabbi Akiva Eiger, Daat Torah, and Sh”t Tiferet Tzvi since anyway one is repeating [[Shmoneh Esrei]] one has to first prepare with praise as in [[Pesukei DeZimrah]]. Lumdus in Halacha: [Birur Halacha 52:3 says one could argue on the Rabbi Akiva Eiger based on the dispute of Rishonim (Tosfot Brachot 26b) whether one goes back for a [[Shmoneh Esrei]] that one forgot the Yaleh VeYavo can repeat if he is not able to add the Yaleh Veyavo in the Tashlumin. According to one opinion one can return since it is as if one did not pray at all and according to the other opinion one may not repeat because he has nothing to add. So too according to the opinion that it is not as if he did not pray at all, then one should not be able to say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] with Brachot. Perhaps one can answer that only by Yaleh VeYavo which is just an addition is there a dispute if the [[Shmoneh Esrei]] counts, but by Mashiv HaRuach or Ten Tal UMatar which is part of the words of the bracha everyone agrees that it is considered as if one did not pray. Rav Chaim MeBrisk (Shuirei Grach pg 74) agrees. Thus, only by Mashiv HaRuach does Rabbi Akiva Eiger say you can say [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] but not for Yaleh VeYavo. However we do not pasken like this idea because Yalkut Yosef 1 pg 238 says that Ten Tal UMatar is even more of an addition since if one remembers within the Shema Esreh Ten Tal UMatar can be said even in Shema Kolenu but Yaleh Veyavo requires you to return to the beginning of the Bracha Ratzeh. So writes the Sh”t Har Tzvi O”C 54, Magen Avraham 108:16, Sh”t Chesed LeAvraham (Mehudra Tanina 20)] </ref> [Seemingly this is only if one already missed [[davening]] Shema Esreh with a [[minyan]], meaning starting [[Shmoneh Esrei]] with the Chazan.] | ||
==If | ==If One Has More Time== | ||
# If one has some more time | # If one has some more time one should add the mizmorim from Haleluyah Halili Nafshi to Haleluyah Halelu El Bekosho.<ref> Magen Avraham 52:1 says even though it sounds from Rama 52 like one should add Hodu if one has time, the Rif already wrote that the main part of [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] is from Tehilat Ledavid to Kol hanishama, meaning that they precede Hodu and so the Rama only meant to add this after one was already saying all the Haleluyah’s and so agrees the Smag. So says Biur Gra 52:3, Bear Hetiev 52:3, Machsit HaShekel 52:1, Shulchan Aruch HaRav 52:1, Mishna Brurah 52:4. </ref> | ||
# If one has more time | # If one has more time one should add the first four pesukim of Vayvarech David. <ref> Halacha Brurah 52:3 in name of Chaye Adam 19:4. </ref> | ||
# If one has more time | # If one has more time one should add Az Yashir. <ref> Halacha Brurah 52:3 in name of Chaye Adam 19:4. </ref> | ||
# If one has more time, according to Ashkenazim who say Hodo after Baruch Sh’amar should add Hodo, but according to Sefardim should add the rest of the pesukim of Pesukei | # If one has more time, according to Ashkenazim who say Hodo after Baruch Sh’amar should add Hodo, but according to Sefardim should add the rest of the pesukim of [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] (such as Mizmor Letodah and Yehe Kavod). <ref> Rama 52:1 in name of Hagahot Maimon Tefilah 7:50 says if one has more time than saying [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] with skipping one should add Hodu. Magen Avraham 52:1 explains that the Rama only means to add this after we add Vayevarech David since that is the opinion of the Smag. This is also the opinion of Mishna Brurah 52:4. Aruch Hashulchan 52 says that Az Yashir precedes Hodu against the Chaye Adam who says Hodu precedes Az Yashir. Bear Hetiev 52:3 in name of Lechem Chamudot that Mizmor Letodah is on the level of Hodu. Sephardim follow the Maamer Mordechai 52:2 and Kaf Hachaim 52:3. </ref> | ||
# If one has more time one should add some [[Korbanot]] starting with Lefikach until Shema and Baruch Shem, then parshat Tamid, ketoret until and not including Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel, then Anna Bechoach and the Ribbon HaOlamim, Lechen Yehe Rason , (if | # If one has more time one should add some [[Korbanot]] starting with Lefikach until Shema and Baruch Shem, then parshat Tamid, ketoret until and not including Rabban Shimon Ben Gamliel, then Anna Bechoach and the Ribbon HaOlamim, Lechen Yehe Rason , (if there is time add Aizehu Mekoman), then Hodo until UBeNiveye Al Tirau, El Nikamot until Hashem Hoshea Hamelech ,Hashem Melech, Lamnatzeach and continue with [[Pesukei DeZimrah]]. <ref> Halacha Brurah 52:3, Sh”t Rav Poalim O”C 2:4, Sh”t Yechave Daat 5:5 in the footnote, Sh”t Ish Matzliach 1:15pg 42a, 76c. </ref> | ||
# On [[Shabbat]], one should skip Nishmat and not Pesukei | # On [[Shabbat]], one should skip Nishmat and not [[Pesukei DeZimrah]]. But if there is not enough time to say the mizmorim before Pesukei Dezimrah, [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] and Nishmat one should skip the mizmorim before Pesukei Dezimrah and not Nishmat. If one has more time to say some of the mizmorim before [[Pesukei DeZimrah]], he should say mizmors “Hashamayim Mesaprim”, "Ledavid Beshenato” and “Tefilah Lemoshe”. <ref> Halacha Brurah 52:4. Chaye Adam 19:6 says Nishmat is an obligation of [[Shabbat]] (based on Pesachim 118a) and if there is little time one just says Brauch Sh’amar, Tehilat Ledavid, Nishmat, Yishtabach. This is also the opinion of Mishna Brurah 52:5. The Sh”t Meshiev Halacha 439-440 adds that should even miss Tefilah Betibbur for Nishmat. However it seems that even the Chaye Adam would agree that one can skip Nishmat for Tefilah Betzibbur. On the other hand, Shalmei Tzibbur (shalmei chagiga pg 203b) holds [[Pesukei DeZimrah]] comes before Nishmat since it is a Tadir- regularly said passage compared to Nishmat. This is also the opinion of Siddur Bet Menucha 133b, Kitzur Shulchan Aruch 14:7, Shaarei Teshuva 281e in name of Shalmei Tzibbur. Sh”t yecha Daat 5:5 footnote 1 argues with the Chaye Adam in that Nishmat is only a Minhag (based on Rambam and Talmidei Rabbenu Yonah), similairly the Sh”t Michtam LeDavid O”C 13 says it is not sourced in the gemara, meaning the practice of saying it on [[Shabbat]] is not in the gemara. The Lechem Hapanim on Kitzur Shulchan Aruch and Leviat Chen 18 agree. </ref> | ||
==Shabbat== | ==Shabbat== | ||
