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==Someone who comes late to Davening==
==Someone who comes late to Davening==
# Someone who comes late to s.v. 35a), Sh”t Yaskil Avdi O”C 1:2(6), Sh”t Simchat Cohen 7:6, and Kaf Hachaim Sofer 52 agree. See also the Shalmei Tzibur quoting the Chacham Tzvi on p. 67c. However, Mamar Mordechai 52:1 says davening in order even at the expense of praying with a minyan only applies to someone who always follows the Arizal but since we follow S”A (especially according to the Chacham Tzvi who says the Arizal agrees to the S”A) one should skip. Naveh Shalom 1 pg 124d, Sh”t Shaar Shlomo Zorafa 60, Chesed LeAlafim 52, and Mishna Brurah 52:1,6 agree. see further Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 4: 91, Sh”t Yacheve Daat 5:5. </ref>, he should do the following order: put on [[Talit]] and Tefilin, say Elokei Netsor, Brachot Hatorah, Baruch Sh’amar, Ashrei, Haleluyah Halelu Min HaShamayim, Haleluyah El Bekodsho, Yishtabach, Brachot Yotzer, Shema, Brachot Geulah, [[Shemoneh Esrei]] with a Minyan or with the Chazarat HaShatz which is also called davening with a Minyan <ref> The following hold it’s Tefilah Betzibbur: Sh”t Me’at Mayim 21, Taharat Mayim 400:9 in name of Rambam, Sh”t Chatam Sofer 4(edition Yerushalim 5733), Petach Hadvir 52, Ashel Avraham 52, Sh”T Bear Yitzchak O”C 20:2, Chazon Ish 19:7, Sh”T Ish Matzliach  O”C 11, Bear Moshe 1:12, Sh”t Shevet Levi 4:11. Sh”T Pri Tevuah 68, Sh”t Yechave Daat Y”D 5:7 . However the Pri megadim 52e, Sh”t Chavselet Hasharon O”C 2, Sh”t Amudei Esh 3:7, Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 3:9 argue it shouldn’t be considered Tefilah Betzibbur. </ref>, after davening he can return to say the Brachot Hashachar, Parshat Akeda, Korbanot and mizmorim of Pesukei Dezimrah that were skipped. <ref> S”A 52:1. Siddur Rav Amram Goan 1:102 says if one’s late he should just say Baruch Sh’amar, Tehilat LeDavid (Ashrei without the first two pesukim), and Yishtabach. Smak 11, quotes Rav Neturei Goan who says one should add Haleluyah El Bekodsho. The Smag (Asin 19 pg 109b), Hagahot Maimon (Tefilat 7:50) in name of Rav Moshe Goan agrees. The Hagahot Smak ibid. adds Haleluyah Min HaShamayim. Hagahot Maimon writes this in name of Sefer HaMitzvot. Rosh (Brachot 2:5) and Talmidei Rabbeinu Yonah (Brachot 23a) hold like Rav Amram Goan. S”A 52:1 holds like the Hagahot Smak that if there’s less time one skips Haleluyah Min Hashamayim. Rama adds that if there’s less time one also skips Haleluyah El Bekodsho. </ref> However, one should not be making up these prayers during Chazarat Hashatz. <ref> Yalkut Yosef Sheerit Yosef 1:page 12 and Hilchot Hashkamat Haboker 5764 page 1129 </ref>  
# Someone who comes late to s.v. 35a), Sh”t Yaskil Avdi O”C 1:2(6), Sh”t Simchat Cohen 7:6, and Kaf Hachaim Sofer 52 agree. See also the Shalmei Tzibur quoting the Chacham Tzvi on p. 67c. However, Mamar Mordechai 52:1 says davening in order even at the expense of praying with a minyan only applies to someone who always follows the Arizal but since we follow S”A (especially according to the Chacham Tzvi who says the Arizal agrees to the S”A) one should skip. Naveh Shalom 1 pg 124d, Sh”t Shaar Shlomo Zorafa 60, Chesed LeAlafim 52, and Mishna Brurah 52:1,6 agree. see further Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 4: 91, Sh”t Yacheve Daat 5:5. </ref>, he should do the following order: put on [[Talit]] and Tefilin, say Elokei Netsor, Brachot Hatorah, Baruch Sh’amar, Ashrei, Haleluyah Halelu Min HaShamayim, Haleluyah El Bekodsho, Yishtabach, Brachot Yotzer, Shema, Brachot Geulah, [[Shemoneh Esrei]] with a Minyan or with the Chazarat HaShatz which is also called davening with a Minyan <ref> The following hold it’s Tefilah Betzibbur: Sh”t Me’at Mayim 21, Taharat Mayim 400:9 in name of Rambam, Sh”t Chatam Sofer 4(edition Yerushalim 5733), Petach Hadvir 52, Ashel Avraham 52, Sh”T Bear Yitzchak O”C 20:2, Chazon Ish 19:7, Sh”T Ish Matzliach  O”C 11, Bear Moshe 1:12, Sh”t Shevet Levi 4:11. Sh”T Pri Tevuah 68, Sh”t Yechave Daat Y”D 5:7 . However the Pri megadim 52e, Sh”t Chavselet Hasharon O”C 2, Sh”t Amudei Esh 3:7, Sh”t Igrot Moshe O”C 3:9 argue it shouldn’t be considered Tefilah Betzibbur. </ref>, after davening he can return to say the Brachot Hashachar, Parshat Akeda, Korbanot and mizmorim of Pesukei Dezimrah that were skipped. <ref> S”A 52:1. Siddur Rav Amram Goan 1:102 says if one’s late he should just say Baruch Sh’amar, Tehilat LeDavid (Ashrei without the first two pesukim), and Yishtabach. Smak 11, quotes Rav Neturei Goan who says one should add Haleluyah El Bekodsho. The Smag (Asin 19 pg 109b), Hagahot Maimon (Tefilat 7:50) in name of Rav Moshe Goan agrees. The Hagahot Smak {{ibid}}. adds Haleluyah Min HaShamayim. Hagahot Maimon writes this in name of Sefer HaMitzvot. Rosh (Brachot 2:5) and Talmidei Rabbeinu Yonah (Brachot 23a) hold like Rav Amram Goan. S”A 52:1 holds like the Hagahot Smak that if there’s less time one skips Haleluyah Min Hashamayim. Rama adds that if there’s less time one also skips Haleluyah El Bekodsho. </ref> However, one should not be making up these prayers during Chazarat Hashatz. <ref> Yalkut Yosef Sheerit Yosef 1:page 12 and Hilchot Hashkamat Haboker 5764 page 1129 </ref>  
==If one has less time==
==If one has less time==
# If there’s less time than that one should also skip Haleluyah Halelu Min HaShamayim and if there’s less time than that one should also skip Haleluyah El Bekodsho.<ref> S”A 52:1 holds like the Hagahot Smak that if there’s less time one skips Haleluyah Min Hashamayim. Rama based on Rav Amram Goan adds that if there’s less time one also skips Haleluyah El Bekodsho. Rama 52:1 based on the Rosh (Brachot 5:6), Mishna Brurah 52:6, and Kitzur S"A 14:7 hold that at a minimum one may say an abbreviated Pesukei Dezimrah consisting of only Baruch SheAmar, Ashrei, and Yishtabach.</ref>
# If there’s less time than that one should also skip Haleluyah Halelu Min HaShamayim and if there’s less time than that one should also skip Haleluyah El Bekodsho.<ref> S”A 52:1 holds like the Hagahot Smak that if there’s less time one skips Haleluyah Min Hashamayim. Rama based on Rav Amram Goan adds that if there’s less time one also skips Haleluyah El Bekodsho. Rama 52:1 based on the Rosh (Brachot 5:6), Mishna Brurah 52:6, and Kitzur S"A 14:7 hold that at a minimum one may say an abbreviated Pesukei Dezimrah consisting of only Baruch SheAmar, Ashrei, and Yishtabach.</ref>