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==When should Selichot be said?==
==When should Selichot be said?==
# Preferably, Selichot should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]. <Ref> Mishna Brurah’s introduction to 581, Maamer Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:5 write that preferably, Selichot should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]. </ref> However, if one delayed one can say it after [[Olot HaShachar]]. <Ref> Maamer Mordechai 34:5. </ref>However, it is permissible to say Selichot earlier in the night as long one one is sure not to start before Chatzot (halachic midnight). <Ref>  
# Preferably, Selichot should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]. <Ref> Mishna Brurah’s introduction to 581, Maamer Mordechai (Rav Mordechai Eliyahu) 34:5 write that preferably, Selichot should be said at the end of the night before [[Olot HaShachar]]. </ref> However, if one delayed one can say it after [[Olot HaShachar]]. <Ref> Maamer Mordechai 34:5. </ref>However, it is permissible to say Selichot earlier in the night as long one one is sure not to start before Chatzot (halachic midnight). <Ref>  
The Magen Avraham 565:5 quotes the Arizal as saying that one should not say Selichot, particularly the 13 middot of rachamim, prior to  
The Magen Avraham 565:5 quotes the Arizal as saying that one should not say Selichot, particularly the 13 middot of rachamim, prior to Chatzot at night. The Birkei Yosef 581:1 and Mishna Brurah 565:12 agree. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 2:105) writes that although prior to Chatzot is not the ideal time, there is no prohibition to say Selichot at such a time, and as a  
Chatzot at night. The Birkei Yosef 581:1 and Mishna Brurah 565:12 agree. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igrot Moshe 2:105) writes that although  
prior to Chatzot is not the ideal time, there is no prohibition to say Selichot at such a time, and as a  
Hora’at Sha’ah, one may be lenient. However, Rav Ovadyah Yosef (Chazon Ovadyah Yamim Nora’im p. 3-6) argues that there is a prohibition based on Kabbalah. He concludes that if the  
Hora’at Sha’ah, one may be lenient. However, Rav Ovadyah Yosef (Chazon Ovadyah Yamim Nora’im p. 3-6) argues that there is a prohibition based on Kabbalah. He concludes that if the  
congregation can’t wake up to say Selichot at night, it may say them during the day before  
congregation can’t wake up to say Selichot at night, it may say them during the day before  
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# The Selichot should be said with proper intent (Kavanah), slowly, and with humility, especially during the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 20) </ref>
# The Selichot should be said with proper intent (Kavanah), slowly, and with humility, especially during the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 20) </ref>
# One should say the words "Veyavor Hashem Al Panav" together with the Shaliach Tzibbur quietly and then say the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim aloud. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32) </ref>
# One should say the words "Veyavor Hashem Al Panav" together with the Shaliach Tzibbur quietly and then say the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim aloud. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32) </ref>
# One should be careful to pause in between the two names of Hashem in the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref>magen Avraham 565:5, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32) </ref>
# One should be careful to pause in between the two names of Hashem in the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref>magen Avraham 565:5, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32), Yalkut Yosef Moadim page 14 </ref>
# One should bow slightly when saying Hashem Hashem in the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32) </ref>
# One should bow slightly when saying Hashem Hashem in the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim. <ref> Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 32) </ref>
# When saying the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim one shouldn't count the Middot on one's fingers because there is a dispute as to which Middot are counted as the 13. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, p. 33)</ref>
# When saying the Yud Gimmel Middot HaRachamim one shouldn't count the Middot on one's fingers because there is a dispute as to which Middot are counted as the 13. <ref>Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, p. 33), Yalkut Yosef tefilla volume 2 page 399. </ref>


==Individuals who can't wake up for Selichot==
==Individuals who can't wake up for Selichot==
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==Selichot without a minyan==
==Selichot without a minyan==
# An individual may say the Selichot that don’t include the thirteen attributes, or aren’t written in Aramaic. <ref> Mishna Brurah 581:4, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11). http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 says that for the thirteen attributes one could read them with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah. </ref>
# An individual may say the Selichot that don’t include the thirteen attributes <ref> Mishna Brurah 581:4, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11). </ref> One can however, read the Yud Gimmel middot (13 attributes) with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah. <ref> Yechave Daat 1:47, Yalkut Yosef Tefilla 2: page 131, Chazon Ovadia yamim Noraim 27, http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135. </ref> Without a minyan, one also cannot recite the paragraphs that are in aramaic. <ref> Yabia Omer 10:footnotes to Rav Pealim OC 3:41 </ref>
# If there’s not a minyan when the tzibbur said Ashrei, they should wait to have a minyan to say Kaddish and when they get a minyan they first say 3 pesukim before reciting Kaddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 quoting the Eliyah Rabba </ref>  
# If there’s not a minyan when the tzibbur said Ashrei, they should wait to have a minyan to say Kaddish and when they get a minyan they first say 3 pesukim before reciting Kaddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 quoting the Eliyah Rabba </ref>  
# If there was a minyan in the beginning and then some people left, they can continue and even say Kaddish after Selichot. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 </ref>
# If there was a minyan in the beginning and then some people left, they can continue and even say Kaddish after Selichot. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 </ref>