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==Selichot without a minyan== | ==Selichot without a minyan== | ||
# An individual may say the Selichot that don’t include the thirteen attributes, or aren’t written in Aramaic. <ref> Mishna Brurah 581:4, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11) </ref> | # An individual may say the Selichot that don’t include the thirteen attributes, or aren’t written in Aramaic. <ref> Mishna Brurah 581:4, Chazon Ovadyah (Yamim Noraim, pg 11). http://halachayomit.co.il/EnglishDefault.asp?HalachaID=2135 says that for the thirteen attributes one could read them with the cantillation as if he is simply reading the torah. </ref> | ||
# If there’s not a minyan when the tzibbur said Ashrei, they should wait to have a minyan to say Kaddish and when they get a minyan they first say 3 pesukim before reciting Kaddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 quoting the Eliyah Rabba </ref> | # If there’s not a minyan when the tzibbur said Ashrei, they should wait to have a minyan to say Kaddish and when they get a minyan they first say 3 pesukim before reciting Kaddish. <ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 quoting the Eliyah Rabba </ref> | ||
# If there was a minyan in the beginning and then some people left, they can continue and even say Kaddish after Selichot. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 </ref> | # If there was a minyan in the beginning and then some people left, they can continue and even say Kaddish after Selichot. <Ref>Mishna Brurah 581:4 </ref> | ||
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==LeDavid Hashem Ori== | ==LeDavid Hashem Ori== | ||
# The Minhag Ashkenaz is to recite "LeDavid Hashem Ori" (Psalm 27) once in the morning and once in the evening from [[Rosh Chodesh]] Elul until and including Shemini Aseret (and in Israel until and including Hoshana Rabba). LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Shacharit (after Shir Shel Yom). On days when there’s Mussaf, LeDavid Hashem Ori is said before Ein Chamocha. On Rosh Chodesh, Barchei Nafsei is said before LeDavid Hashem Ori. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 581:2 says that the Minhag Ashkenaz is to say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Shacharit from [[Rosh Chodesh]] Elul until and including Shemini Aseret. LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Shir Shel Yom. On days when there’s Mussaf, LeDavid Hashem Ori is said before Ein Chamocha. On Rosh Chodesh, Barchei Nafsei is said before LeDavid Hashem Ori. Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 10:67 and Chazon Ovadyah (pg 24) writes that in Israel the minhag is to say it until and including Hoshana Rabba. </ref> | # The Minhag Ashkenaz is to recite "LeDavid Hashem Ori" (Psalm 27) once in the morning and once in the evening from [[Rosh Chodesh]] Elul until and including Shemini Aseret (and in Israel until and including Hoshana Rabba). LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Shacharit (after Shir Shel Yom). On days when there’s Mussaf, LeDavid Hashem Ori is said before Ein Chamocha. On Rosh Chodesh, Barchei Nafsei is said before LeDavid Hashem Ori. <Ref> Mishna Brurah 581:2 says that the Minhag Ashkenaz is to say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Shacharit from [[Rosh Chodesh]] Elul until and including Shemini Aseret. LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Shir Shel Yom. On days when there’s Mussaf, LeDavid Hashem Ori is said before Ein Chamocha. On Rosh Chodesh, Barchei Nafsei is said before LeDavid Hashem Ori. Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 10:67 and Chazon Ovadyah (pg 24) writes that in Israel the minhag is to say it until and including Hoshana Rabba. </ref> | ||
# For | # For Sephardim it’s also proper to say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Shacharit. <Ref> Rav Ovadyah (Chazon Ovadyah pg 24) writes that even for sephardim it’s proper to say LeDavid Hashem after [[Shacharit]]. </ref> | ||
# Ashkenazim say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Mariv, however, some say it after mincha. <Ref> Mateh Efraim 551:6 writes that LeDavid Hashem Ori in the evening should be said after Mincha. So rules Mishna Brurah 581:2. However, Elef HaMagen 581:10 holds that LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Mariv. Shalmei Moed (pg 21) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman writes that one should follow the minhag of the Tzibbur one is praying with. Shalmei Moed (pg 21) says that the minhag Ashkenaz is to say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Mariv (such is how the Artscroll Siddur has it). </ref> | # Ashkenazim say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Mariv, however, some say it after mincha. <Ref> Mateh Efraim 551:6 writes that LeDavid Hashem Ori in the evening should be said after Mincha. So rules Mishna Brurah 581:2. However, Elef HaMagen 581:10 holds that LeDavid Hashem Ori should be said after Mariv. Shalmei Moed (pg 21) in name of Rav Shlomo Zalman writes that one should follow the minhag of the Tzibbur one is praying with. Shalmei Moed (pg 21) says that the minhag Ashkenaz is to say LeDavid Hashem Ori after Mariv (such is how the Artscroll Siddur has it). </ref> | ||
