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# If the Shaliach Tzibbur makes a mistake in Chazara and forgets to say an addition has the same halacha as in individual who forgets that addition. The one exception to this is that if the Shaliach Tzibbur forgets to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] on [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Shacharit]] and he has completed the [[Chazarat HaShatz]] he does not have to repeat it. However, if he remembers before the end of the Chazara he should go back to Retzeh and add in [[Yaaleh VeYavo]]. <Ref> | # If the Shaliach Tzibbur makes a mistake in Chazara and forgets to say an addition has the same halacha as in individual who forgets that addition. The one exception to this is that if the Shaliach Tzibbur forgets to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] on [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Shacharit]] and he has completed the [[Chazarat HaShatz]] he does not have to repeat it. However, if he remembers before the end of the Chazara he should go back to Retzeh and add in [[Yaaleh VeYavo]]. <Ref> | ||
* The Gemara [[Brachot]] 30b quotes a Briatta which says that if one forgets to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] at [[Shacharit]] one doesn’t have to repeat Shemonah Esrei because one could make it up at [[Mussaf]]. | * The Gemara [[Brachot]] 30b quotes a Briatta which says that if one forgets to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] at [[Shacharit]] one doesn’t have to repeat Shemonah Esrei because one could make it up at [[Mussaf]]. | ||
* Rashi (30b | * Rashi (30b s.v. BeTzibbur) explains that the Gemara is discussing an individual who forgot to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in [[Shacharit]] and the reason he doesn’t have to repeat it is because he will hear [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] from the Shaliach Tzibbur in the Chazara. The Tur 126 asks on this explanation because seemingly it doesn’t fit back into the words of the Gemara. | ||
* Bahag (quoted by Rashi above) explains that the Gemara is discussing a Shaliach Tzibbur who forgot to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the Chazara of [[Shacharit]] and the reason he doesn’t have to repeat is because there would be an inconvenience to the congregation to make them hear another Chazara rather it’s enough that they will mention [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Mussaf]]. This explanation is brought in the Rif ([[Brachot]] 21a), Rabbenu Yonah ([[Brachot]] 21a | * Bahag (quoted by Rashi above) explains that the Gemara is discussing a Shaliach Tzibbur who forgot to say [[Yaaleh VeYavo]] in the Chazara of [[Shacharit]] and the reason he doesn’t have to repeat is because there would be an inconvenience to the congregation to make them hear another Chazara rather it’s enough that they will mention [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Mussaf]]. This explanation is brought in the Rif ([[Brachot]] 21a), Rabbenu Yonah ([[Brachot]] 21a s.v. UbeTzibbur), Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:23), and Rambam ([[Tefillah]] 10:12). This is the basis for the ruling of Tur and S”A 126:3. | ||
* The Bet Yosef 126:3 quotes a response of Rashi which says that the only case where one doesn’t repeat is if one finished the Chazara however, if one didn’t finish Chazara it’s not considered a bother to congregation to return to [[Yaaleh VeYavo]]. This is the ruling of S”A 126:3. | * The Bet Yosef 126:3 quotes a response of Rashi which says that the only case where one doesn’t repeat is if one finished the Chazara however, if one didn’t finish Chazara it’s not considered a bother to congregation to return to [[Yaaleh VeYavo]]. This is the ruling of S”A 126:3. | ||
* The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:23) explains that this leniency only applies to [[Shacharit]] because the congregation will say [[Mussaf]] immediately afterwards as opposed to forgetting in [[Mussaf]] where it’s not sufficient not to repeat and depend on mentioning [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Mincha]] because [[Mincha]] is not said immediately afterwards. | * The Rosh ([[Brachot]] 4:23) explains that this leniency only applies to [[Shacharit]] because the congregation will say [[Mussaf]] immediately afterwards as opposed to forgetting in [[Mussaf]] where it’s not sufficient not to repeat and depend on mentioning [[Rosh Chodesh]] in [[Mincha]] because [[Mincha]] is not said immediately afterwards. | ||
