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===Taaseh Vilo Min Haasuy=== | ===Taaseh Vilo Min Haasuy=== | ||
#One should try to build the walls of the sukkah before putting up the sechach. According to some poskim, if one puts the sechach up onto poles and only after fills in the kosher walls, it is still kosher. <ref>Bach 635, Birkei Yosef 635:2, Maamar Mordechai 635:4, Moed Likol Chai 21:12. Chazon Ovadia Sukkot pg. 38 even allows reciting a beracha on such a sukkah </ref> Others are strict even after the fact.<ref>Levush 638, Taz 635:4 </ref> | #One should try to build the walls of the sukkah before putting up the sechach. According to some poskim, if one puts the sechach up onto poles and only after fills in the kosher walls, it is still kosher. <ref>Bach 635, Birkei Yosef 635:2, Maamar Mordechai 635:4, Moed Likol Chai 21:12. Chazon Ovadia Sukkot pg. 38 even allows reciting a beracha on such a sukkah </ref> Others are strict even after the fact.<ref>Levush 638, Taz 635:4 </ref> | ||
#If one builds a kosher sukkah, but the walls falls, whether they fall before Sukkot or during Sukkot, the Sukkah is still kosher when you put the walls back up, and this is not a violation of taaseh vilo min Haasuy.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Sukkot pg. 40, Kaf Hachaim 635:18; Pekudat Elazer 630, Mikraei Kodesh Sukkot 1:11; Shevet Halevi 7:56 and 8:146 </ref> However, some Poskim rule that if this occurred before Sukkot one is required to replace the Sechach.<ref>Shu"T Rav Pealim OC 1:34; 3:40</ref> | #If one builds a kosher sukkah, but the walls falls, whether they fall before Sukkot or during Sukkot, the Sukkah is still kosher when you put the walls back up, and this is not a violation of taaseh vilo min Haasuy.<ref>Chazon Ovadia Sukkot pg. 40, Kaf Hachaim 635:18; Pekudat Elazer 630, Mikraei Kodesh Sukkot 1:11; Shevet Halevi 7:56 and 8:146 </ref> However, some Poskim rule that if this occurred before Sukkot one is required to replace the Sechach.<ref>Shu"T Rav Pealim OC 1:34; 3:40</ref> | ||
==Number of Walls of the Sukkah== | ==Number of Walls of the Sukkah== | ||
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#The minimum number of walls necessary for a [[Sukkah]] is 3 of length 7 [[Tefachim]]. <ref>The Mishna Sukkah 2a states that a sukkah requires only three walls. The Gemara (Sukkah 6b) quotes a Tosefta (Sukkah 1:9) which records a dispute about how many walls are needed for a sukkah. The Rabbis hold that a sukkah requires two full walls and a third wall of at least a tefach, while Rabbi Shimon holds that a sukkah requires three full walls and a fourth wall of at least a tefach. The Shulchan Aruch 630:2 rules in accordance with the Rabbis. The Chaye Adam (146:3) writes that it is preferable to construct a sukkah of four complete walls, however, he agrees that this is not required.</ref> It's possible to build the third wall without having to complete it but see footnote for details. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 630:2 according to the explanation of the Mishna Brurah 630:6 the third wall doesn't have to be a full wall of 7 [[Tefachim]] but must still look like a wall and so it's permissible to build two walls next to each other (say one is from southwest to southeast and the other is southeast to northeast) and then a third wall (from northeast to northwest) constructed with a wall which is more than one [[Tefach]] thick within 3 [[Tefachim]] to one of the two other walls (within 3 [[Tefachim]] of the northeast corner) and also a pole at the end of 7 [[Tefachim]] (7 [[Tefachim]] from the northeast corner) and a pole on top of the more than one [[tefach]] wall and the pole at the end of 7 [[Tefachim]]. See picture. [[Image:Minimum_sukkah.png | 100px | right]]</ref> | #[[File:3D Sukkah Model.jpg|thumb|A kosher sukkah with 2.5 walls.]]The minimum number of walls necessary for a [[Sukkah]] is 3 of length 7 [[Tefachim]]. <ref>The Mishna Sukkah 2a states that a sukkah requires only three walls. The Gemara (Sukkah 6b) quotes a Tosefta (Sukkah 1:9) which records a dispute about how many walls are needed for a sukkah. The Rabbis hold that a sukkah requires two full walls and a third wall of at least a tefach, while Rabbi Shimon holds that a sukkah requires three full walls and a fourth wall of at least a tefach. The Shulchan Aruch 630:2 rules in accordance with the Rabbis. The Chaye Adam (146:3) writes that it is preferable to construct a sukkah of four complete walls, however, he agrees that this is not required.</ref> It's possible to build the third wall without having to complete it but see footnote for details. <ref>Shulchan Aruch 630:2 according to the explanation of the Mishna Brurah 630:6 the third wall doesn't have to be a full wall of 7 [[Tefachim]] but must still look like a wall and so it's permissible to build two walls next to each other (say one is from southwest to southeast and the other is southeast to northeast) and then a third wall (from northeast to northwest) constructed with a wall which is more than one [[Tefach]] thick within 3 [[Tefachim]] to one of the two other walls (within 3 [[Tefachim]] of the northeast corner) and also a pole at the end of 7 [[Tefachim]] (7 [[Tefachim]] from the northeast corner) and a pole on top of the more than one [[tefach]] wall and the pole at the end of 7 [[Tefachim]]. See picture. [[Image:Minimum_sukkah.png | 100px | right]]</ref> | ||
===Dimensions=== | ===Dimensions=== | ||
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==Covering the Sukkah in case of Rain== | ==Covering the Sukkah in case of Rain== | ||
#It's permissible to cover the [[Sukkah]] on Shabbat and Yom Tov with a plastic tarp to prevent it from getting wet if one places the tarp directly above the Schach and not a [[tefach]] above the Schach and one has in mind to remove the tarp when one next uses the [[Sukkah]] for the mitzvah. <ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 5:39(4) writes that it's permissible to cover the [[Sukkah]] with a plastic sheet on [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] without an issue of Boneh by making an Ohel nor the issue of [[muktzeh]]. </ref> | #It's permissible to cover the [[Sukkah]] on Shabbat and Yom Tov with a plastic tarp to prevent it from getting wet if one places the tarp directly above the Schach and not a [[tefach]] above the Schach and one has in mind to remove the tarp when one next uses the [[Sukkah]] for the mitzvah. <ref>Sh"t Igrot Moshe 5:39(4) writes that it's permissible to cover the [[Sukkah]] with a plastic sheet on [[Shabbat]] and [[Yom Tov]] without an issue of Boneh by making an Ohel nor the issue of [[muktzeh]]. </ref> | ||
==Using Someone Else's Sukkah without their Permission== | ==Using Someone Else's Sukkah without their Permission== | ||
# One shouldn't use someone's sukkah without their permission.< | |||
* Mishna Brura 637:9 quotes the Taz 637:4 that the reason for this is that it would be an invasion of the owner's privacy | #One shouldn't use someone's sukkah without their permission.<ref>Rama 637:3, Halachos of Other People's pg. 67<br> | ||
* Mishna Brura 637:9 quotes Eliya Rabba 637:3 who explains that you might not finish eating before the owner wants to enter, but the owner will be too embarrassed to ask you to leave | |||
* Mekor Chaim 637 says because you might leave a mess. | *Mishna Brura 637:9 quotes the Taz 637:4 that the reason for this is that it would be an invasion of the owner's privacy | ||
* Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 68 note 184 writes that the practical difference between these reasons is that according to the first two, one who is certain that the owner is not around would be permitted to use it, but not according to the third reason. </ref> | *Mishna Brura 637:9 quotes Eliya Rabba 637:3 who explains that you might not finish eating before the owner wants to enter, but the owner will be too embarrassed to ask you to leave | ||
*Mekor Chaim 637 says because you might leave a mess. | |||
*Halachos of Other People's Money pg. 68 note 184 writes that the practical difference between these reasons is that according to the first two, one who is certain that the owner is not around would be permitted to use it, but not according to the third reason.</ref> | |||
==Links== | ==Links== | ||
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[[Category:Holidays]] | [[Category:Holidays]] | ||
[[Category:Sukkot]] | [[Category:Sukkot]] | ||
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