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# A broken vessel, whether it broke before [[Shabbat]] or on [[Shabbat]], it’s not considered [[Muktzeh]] if it still has the some purpose such as to cover a vessel. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:6 writes that a vessel which broke on [[Shabbat]] on [[Shabbat]] is not considered [[Muktzeh]] if it still has the some purpose such as to cover a vessel. Mishna Brurah 308:27 and 32 clarifies that the same is true whether it broke before or on [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | # A broken vessel, whether it broke before [[Shabbat]] or on [[Shabbat]], it’s not considered [[Muktzeh]] if it still has the some purpose such as to cover a vessel. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch O.C. 308:6 writes that a vessel which broke on [[Shabbat]] on [[Shabbat]] is not considered [[Muktzeh]] if it still has the some purpose such as to cover a vessel. Mishna Brurah 308:27 and 32 clarifies that the same is true whether it broke before or on [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | ||
# A broken vessel that has no use but is going to be fixed some consider it not muktzeh, while others hold it is muktzeh.<ref> Shalmei Yehuda 3:3 p. 63 quotes Rav Elyashiv that the leniency of a door that broke off a utensil isn't muktzeh because it could be reattached doesn't apply to a utensil that completely breaks and is going to be fixed. Orchot Shabbat v. 2 p. 592 argues.</ref> Furthermore, some hold that if a professional is needed to fix it it is muktzeh.<ref>Shalmei Yehuda 3:3 p. 64 quotes Az Nidbaru 7:46 and Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach that if it takes a professional to fix it is muktzeh.</ref> | |||
==Nowadays== | ==Nowadays== | ||
# Some say that nowadays since most people throw out a broken vessel once it breaks it’s considered [[Muktzeh]] unless it’s a vessel which wouldn’t be thrown out by people, while others are of the opinion that if it has a function to cover a vessel normally (or another permissible purpose) then even if one practically one use it for that purpose it’s considered a vessel and non-[[Muktzeh]]. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch Harav 308:29 implies the stringent approach but Rav Sheinberg (Shalmei Yehuda p. 261) argues that all that is necessary is that theoretically it is usable. | # Some say that nowadays since most people throw out a broken vessel once it breaks it’s considered [[Muktzeh]] unless it’s a vessel which wouldn’t be thrown out by people, while others are of the opinion that if it has a function to cover a vessel normally (or another permissible purpose) then even if one practically one use it for that purpose it’s considered a vessel and non-[[Muktzeh]]. <Ref>Shulchan Aruch Harav 308:29 implies the stringent approach but Rav Sheinberg (Shalmei Yehuda p. 261) argues that all that is necessary is that theoretically it is usable. | ||
