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## (My question (Ike Sultan) is from the fact that the Magan Avraham asked by there’s a difference between seif 11 and seif 7 and not seif 6 which is the beginning of the topic of broken kelim, rather perhaps the magan Avraham means only to discuss where it broke on Shabbat itself.)
## (My question (Ike Sultan) is from the fact that the Magan Avraham asked by there’s a difference between seif 11 and seif 7 and not seif 6 which is the beginning of the topic of broken kelim, rather perhaps the magan Avraham means only to discuss where it broke on Shabbat itself.)
# Orah VeSimcha 25:8 D”H Aval, Tehila LeDavid 308:17, Badei HaShulchan 109:12 hold like Hagot Rabbi Akiva Eiger.  
# Orah VeSimcha 25:8 D”H Aval, Tehila LeDavid 308:17, Badei HaShulchan 109:12 hold like Hagot Rabbi Akiva Eiger.  
## Megilat Sefer (pg 268) D”H Min HaAmur writes that if one rips a plastic bag bag open in a destructive way it’s Muktzeh since it’s usual to throw out. However, Adnei Shlomo (pg 265, 308:204) argues based on the Rashba. the Chut HaSheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz; vol 3, chapter 51, pg 106) also argues that if it was not thrown out before Shabbat it’s not Muktzeh. [Matnat Yehuda (pg 317) quotes Rav Nassim Karlitz and concludes that finds his words painful like soap in one’s eyes!]
## Megilat Sefer (pg 268) D”H Min HaAmur writes that if one rips a plastic bag bag open in a destructive way it’s Muktzeh since it’s usual to throw out. However, Adnei Shlomo (pg 265, 308:204) argues based on the Rashba. the Chut HaSheni (Rav Nassim Karlitz; vol 3, chapter 51, pg 106) also argues that if it was not thrown out before Shabbat it’s not Muktzeh. [Matnat Yehuda (pg 317) quotes Rav Nassim Karlitz and praises it. ]