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* Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Borer #8) writes that the halacha follows the Magen Avraham and not the Pri Megadim, however, chicken skin is a part of the chicken completely and removing it is like cutting a piece of chicken which is permitted even not immediately prior to eating unlike apple peels. Sh"t Rivevot Efraim 5:267 agrees. Orchot [[Shabbat]] (vol 1, 3:93, pg 166) writes that Rav Moshe was writing in a place where everyone would eat chicken skin, however, in [[Israel]] it may only be removed right before the meal like fruit peels. The English translation of Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:30 adds that whether chicken skin is usually eaten depends on each locality. However, Chut Shani (vol 2, pg 81) writes it’s possible to say since it’s totally food and it’s only because we’re spoiled we don’t eat it, it shouldn’t be considered waste, nonetheless, he concludes that one should remove it before the meal. | * Igrot Moshe 4:74 (Borer #8) writes that the halacha follows the Magen Avraham and not the Pri Megadim, however, chicken skin is a part of the chicken completely and removing it is like cutting a piece of chicken which is permitted even not immediately prior to eating unlike apple peels. Sh"t Rivevot Efraim 5:267 agrees. Orchot [[Shabbat]] (vol 1, 3:93, pg 166) writes that Rav Moshe was writing in a place where everyone would eat chicken skin, however, in [[Israel]] it may only be removed right before the meal like fruit peels. The English translation of Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:30 adds that whether chicken skin is usually eaten depends on each locality. However, Chut Shani (vol 2, pg 81) writes it’s possible to say since it’s totally food and it’s only because we’re spoiled we don’t eat it, it shouldn’t be considered waste, nonetheless, he concludes that one should remove it before the meal. | ||
* However, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:30 (in new editions 3:34) writes that the Magen Avraham held most people don’t eat apple peels but fundamentally he agrees with the Pri Megadim; thus, he rules, since most people eat chicken skin one may remove it even not right before the meal. However, he adds that some are strict based on the Magen Avraham. See further Menuchat Ahava (vol 2 7:13) and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 114). | * However, Shemirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata 3:30 (in new editions 3:34) writes that the Magen Avraham held most people don’t eat apple peels but fundamentally he agrees with the Pri Megadim; thus, he rules, since most people eat chicken skin one may remove it even not right before the meal. However, he adds that some are strict based on the Magen Avraham. See further Menuchat Ahava (vol 2 7:13) and [[Shabbos]] Kitchen (pg 114). | ||
* Aruch HaShulchan 321:26 writes that it should only be removed right before eating because of Mafshit. 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 431) writes that preferably one should be strict for this opinion. </ref>However, grilled chicken skin may be removed even not before eating. <Ref> Orchot [[Shabbat]] (chap 3 note 106) writes that everyone eats grilled chicken skin and can be removed even not right before eating. Korei Oneg (vol 3, pg 55) agrees. Ayil Meshulash (pg 66 note 55) writes that grilled chicken skin is considered part of the food. Therefore, even someone who doesn't eat it may remove the skin.</ref> | * Aruch HaShulchan 321:26 writes that it should only be removed right before eating because of Mafshit. 39 Melachos (vol 2, pg 431) writes that preferably one should be strict for this opinion. | ||
* see also Ayil Meshullash 6: note 55 quoting Rav Elyashiv and Az Nidberu 7:16</ref> | |||
However, grilled chicken skin may be removed even not before eating. <Ref> Orchot [[Shabbat]] (chap 3 note 106) writes that everyone eats grilled chicken skin and can be removed even not right before eating. Korei Oneg (vol 3, pg 55) agrees. Ayil Meshulash (pg 66 note 55) writes that grilled chicken skin is considered part of the food. Therefore, even someone who doesn't eat it may remove the skin.</ref> | |||
===Watermelon=== | ===Watermelon=== | ||
