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==How close are the items to be considered a mixture==
==How close are the items to be considered a mixture==
# There's three catogories of mixtures. 1) A mixture can consist of disparate objects that are near each other. 2) A mixture is formed when there's items attached to one another. 3) Items on top of one another also form a mixture. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 91-95) </ref>
# There's three catogories of mixtures. 1) A mixture can consist of disparate objects that are near each other. 2) A mixture is formed when there's items attached to one another. 3) Items on top of one another also form a mixture. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 91-95) </ref>
## A group of objects are considered a mixture if the individual items loose thier identity as individuals and the items are seens as a group and not individuals. This includes examples such as  
===Items that are close===
### beans, barley, potato, and meat in a chulent,  
# A group of objects are considered a mixture if the individual items loose thier identity as individuals and the items are seens as a group and not individuals. This includes examples such as  
### mixed nuts in a bowl,  
## beans, barley, potato, and meat in a chulent,  
### spliced fruit in a bowl  
## mixed nuts in a bowl,  
### pile of utensils
## spliced fruit in a bowl  
### platter of different types of deli
## pile of utensils
### platter of different types of cakes <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92-3) </ref>
## platter of different types of deli
## The greater amount of objects in a concentrated area makes the items form a mixture. The larger the objects the more items that are needed in order for the items to loose thier identity. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92) </ref>
## platter of different types of cakes <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92-3) </ref>
## If the group of objects is possibilly a mixture and it's unclear we’re strict to consider it a mixture not to do borer. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen pg 91 writes that we are very strict by borer since it's possible to violate borer on a deoritta level by lacking just one the three requirements. </ref>
# The greater amount of objects in a concentrated area makes the items form a mixture. The larger the objects the more items that are needed in order for the items to loose thier identity. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92) </ref>
## Items that are attached are considered a mixture. This includes the following examples:
# If the group of objects is possibilly a mixture and it's unclear we’re strict to consider it a mixture not to do borer. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen pg 91 writes that we are very strict by borer since it's possible to violate borer on a deoritta level by lacking just one the three requirements. </ref>
### fat attached to meat  
# A totally rotten fruit among good fruits constitutes a mixture and so one may not remove a good fruit if one doesn’t intend to eat it immediately. However, one may remove a fruit that’s surrounding the fruit that’s adjacent to the rotten fruit. <Ref> Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 3:25 </ref>
### peels on fruits
===Attached items===
### shells on nuts or eggs
# Items that are attached are considered a mixture. This includes the following examples:
### a damaged part of a fruit to the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 93) </ref>
## fat attached to meat  
### the pit of the fruit to the flesh of the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 112) </ref>
## peels on fruits
## If items are piled on top of one another, they are considered a mixture even if each item is individually recognizable. <ref> Mishna Brurah 319:15 (at the end), Shabbat Kitchen (pg 94-5) </ref>
## shells on nuts or eggs
## Examples of this type of mixture include:
## a damaged part of a fruit to the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 93) </ref>
### different type of plates (or sizes) in a stack
## the pit of the fruit to the flesh of the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 112) </ref>
### towels or clothes in a pile <ref> Shabbat Kitchen (pg 95) </ref>
# It's permissible to seperate the items that are attached except at the juunction of thier connection (as opposed to close items where even the outer items may not be seperated). For example, it's permissbile to cut away fat on meat if one leaves a sliver of the fat attached to the meat. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen (pg 107) </ref>
===Stacked items===
# If items are piled on top of one another, they are considered a mixture even if each item is individually recognizable. <ref> Mishna Brurah 319:15 (at the end), Shabbat Kitchen (pg 94-5) </ref> This includes the following examples:
## different type of plates (or sizes) in a stack
## towels or clothes in a pile <ref> Shabbat Kitchen (pg 95) </ref>
# It's permissible to remove unwanted top items in order to reach a wanted item on bottom of the mixture. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen (pg 107-8), Mishna Brurah 319:15 </ref>


==The permitted way to separate==
==The permitted way to separate==