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==What is considered a mixture?== | ==What is considered a mixture?== | ||
# If there’s a group of indentical items that group isn’t considered a mixture and may be separated without violating borer. <Ref> | # If there’s a group of indentical items that group isn’t considered a mixture and may be separated without violating borer. <Ref> Rama 319:3 rules that it's permissible to seperate peices of fish by the size since it's all one type of food. Mishna Brurah 319:15 writes that even though the Taz argues on the Rama, most achronim agree with the Rama. So write's the Shabbos Kitchen (pg 87-88) that there's no borer when seperating indentical objects. </ref> | ||
# However if there’s a difference in the | # However if there’s a difference in the taste, function, or quality in the foods the group of items is considered a mixture. However, items of different sizes that are identical in taste, funcation and quality don't form a mixture. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 88-91) outlines four ways to distingish items in a group to call it a mixture and not a group fo identical items. The four main catogories are taste, function, and quality. </ref> | ||
# | ## Foods that have a different taste are considered a mixture. For example, cooked and baked apples together are considered a mixture. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 89) </ref> Another example is boiled and roasted chiken pieces together are considered a mixture. <ref> Mishna Brurah 319:15, Shabbos Kitchen (pg 89) </ref> | ||
## Foods that have a different function constitue a mixture. For example, soup spoon and teaspoons together would form a mixture. Similarly, kitchen and table knifes, or large and small plates, or spoons and forks together create a mixture. <ref> ayil meshulash pg 16, Shabbat Kitchen pg 90 </ref> Another example would be matzah meal and matzah chunks mixed together would be a mixture. <ref> pri megadim m”z 319:2, Shabbat Kitchen pg 90 </ref> | |||
## The definition of foods of different quality is when one food is desireable and one is edible but only out of nessecity. <ref> Mishna Brurah 319:7, Shabbat Kitchen pg 90 </ref> For example, fresh and spoiled grapes together form a mixture. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen 91 </ref> Similarly, ccoked and burnt meats form a mixture. <ref> Mishna Brurah 319:15 </ref> | |||
# However, the different size of items in a group don't cause the group to be considered a mixture unless the difference in size changes it’s function <ref> Rama 319:3, Shabbat Kitchen pg 90 </ref> | |||
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==How close are the items to be considered a mixture== | ==How close are the items to be considered a mixture== | ||
# unclear we’re | # There's three catogories of mixtures. 1) A mixture can consist of disparate objects that are near each other. 2) A mixture is formed when there's items attached to one another. 3) Items on top of one another also form a mixture. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 91-95) </ref> | ||
## A group of objects are considered a mixture if the individual items loose thier identity as individuals and the items are seens as a group and not individuals. This includes examples such as | |||
* beans, barley, potato, and meat in a chulent, | |||
* mixed nuts in a bowl, | |||
* spliced fruit in a bowl | |||
* pile of utensils | |||
* platter of different types of deli | |||
* platter of different types of cakes <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92-3) </ref> | |||
## The greater amount of objects in a concentrated area makes the items form a mixture. The larger the objects the more items that are needed in order for the items to loose thier identity. <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 92) </ref> | |||
## Items that are attached are considered a mixture. This includes the following examples: | |||
* fat attached to meat | |||
* peels on fruits | |||
* shells on nuts or eggs | |||
* a damaged part of a fruit to the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 93) </ref> | |||
* the pit of the fruit to the flesh of the fruit <ref> Shabbos Kitchen (pg 112) </ref> | |||
# If the group of objects is possibilly a mixture and it's unclear we’re strict to consider it a mixture not to do borer. <ref> Shabbat Kitchen pg 91 writes that we are very strict by borer since it's possible to violate borer on a deoritta level by lacking just one the three requirements. </ref> | |||
==The permitted way to separate== | ==The permitted way to separate== | ||
