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# According to many poskim tea leaves are considered foods which cook easily and could cook in a Kli Sheni and therefore it's forbidden to put a tea bag in a cup and pour upon it boiling water from the urn, nor may the tea bag be put in a cup in which water was poured from an urn. <ref> Mishna Brurah 318:39, Aruch Hashulchan 318:28, 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 660).  
# According to many poskim tea leaves are considered foods which cook easily and could cook in a Kli Sheni and therefore it's forbidden to put a tea bag in a cup and pour upon it boiling water from the urn, nor may the tea bag be put in a cup in which water was poured from an urn. <ref> Mishna Brurah 318:39, Aruch Hashulchan 318:28, 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 2, pg 660).  
* However, [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/735829/Rabbi_Chaim_Jachter/Making_Tea_on_Shabbat Rabbi Chaim Jachter] quotes Rabbi Yosef Adler quoting Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik who said that his grandfather, Rav Chaim Soloveitchik, made tea on [[Shabbat]] using a Kli Sheni, because the gemara [[Shabbat]] 42b says that it is permissible to put spices into a kli sheini, and Rav Chaim considered tea to be a spice. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (quoted in Shmirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata chapter 1 note 152) is quoted as saying that the spices referred to in the gemara in [[shabbat]] 42b were different then the spices of today, and that today's spices would be considered like kalei habishul. </ref>
* However, [http://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/735829/Rabbi_Chaim_Jachter/Making_Tea_on_Shabbat Rabbi Chaim Jachter] cites the opinion of Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik in the name of his grandfather, Rav Chaim Soloveitchik, who made tea on [[Shabbat]] using a Kli Sheni, because the gemara [[Shabbat]] 42b says that it is permissible to put spices into a kli sheini, and Rav Chaim considered tea to be a spice. Nefesh Harav pg. 170 quotes that Rav Yosef Dov Soloveitchik held this way himself as well. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (quoted in Shmirat [[Shabbat]] KeHilchata chapter 1 note 152) is quoted as saying that the spices referred to in the gemara in [[shabbat]] 42b were different then the spices of today, and that today's spices would be considered like kalei habishul. </ref>
# The preferable way of making tea on [[Shabbat]] is to use instant tea which may be placed in a Kli Sheni (a cup with water which was poured from an urn) and better yet in a Kli Shelishi (a cup with water which was poured from a Kli Sheni). <ref>Igrot Moshe 4:74(16) </ref>
# The preferable way of making tea on [[Shabbat]] is to use instant tea which may be placed in a Kli Sheni (a cup with water which was poured from an urn) and better yet in a Kli Shelishi (a cup with water which was poured from a Kli Sheni). <ref>Igrot Moshe 4:74(16) </ref>
# Another preferable method is to prepare "tea essence" by [[cooking]] a tea bag before [[Shabbat]], saving the flavored liquid, and putting it into a Kli Sheni (a cup with hot water which was poured from an urn). <ref>Mishna Brurah 318:39 </ref>
# Another preferable method is to prepare "tea essence" by [[cooking]] a tea bag before [[Shabbat]], saving the flavored liquid, and putting it into a Kli Sheni (a cup with hot water which was poured from an urn). <ref>Mishna Brurah 318:39 </ref>