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===Appearing Like Cooking===
===Appearing Like Cooking===
#According to Ashkenazim, there is a rabbinic prohibition to place uncooked foods into a kli sheni because it looks like cooking (Heb. מחזי כמבשל; trans. ''mechzei kemevashel''). However, this doesn't apply to spices because they are just meant to enhance the flavor of the food and not the actual food. [This is aside from the issue of cooking foods in a uncooked foods in a kli sheni as they might be easily cooked (Heb. קלי הבישול; trans. ''kali habishul'').]<ref>The Mishnah (Shabbat 42a) establishes that one is allowed to place spices into a Kli Sheini even though it appears as if the spices are cooking. The first answer in Tosfot Shabbat 39a s.v. kol is that for other foods there is a rabbinic decree not to place them into a kli sheni because it looks like cooking. Spices, however, which just enhance the taste of the food don't have that concern. The Magen Avraham 318:15 and Mishnah Brurah 318:34 codify this opinion of Tosfot.</ref> Sephardim are lenient.<ref>Mishnat Chachamim on MB 318:34 cites Leviat Chen n. 44 who disagrees with the Magen Avraham because we follow the second answer of Tosfot, Rashba, Ritva, and others.</ref>
#According to Ashkenazim, there is a rabbinic prohibition to place uncooked foods into a kli sheni because it looks like cooking (Heb. מחזי כמבשל; trans. ''mechzei kemevashel''). However, this doesn't apply to spices because they are just meant to enhance the flavor of the food and not the actual food. [This is aside from the issue of cooking foods in a uncooked foods in a kli sheni as they might be easily cooked (Heb. קלי הבישול; trans. ''kali habishul'').]<ref>The Mishnah (Shabbat 42a) establishes that one is allowed to place spices into a Kli Sheini even though it appears as if the spices are cooking. The first answer in Tosfot Shabbat 39a s.v. kol is that for other foods there is a rabbinic decree not to place them into a kli sheni because it looks like cooking. Spices, however, which just enhance the taste of the food don't have that concern. Tosfot Pesachim 40b s.v. hailfas agrees. The Magen Avraham 318:15 and Mishnah Brurah 318:34 codify this opinion of Tosfot.</ref> Sephardim are lenient.<ref>Mishnat Chachamim on MB 318:34 cites Leviat Chen n. 44 who disagrees with the Magen Avraham because we follow the second answer of Tosfot Shabbat 39a s.v. kol, Rashba 39a s.v. vkol, Ritva, and others.</ref>


==Cooking in a Kli Shelishi==
==Cooking in a Kli Shelishi==
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==Making Coffee on Shabbat==
==Making Coffee on Shabbat==
#It is permitted to make instant coffee and then to add milk and sugar to a Kli Sheni since it was cooked in its production.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:49, 54. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igros Moshe O.C. 4:74:16), Orchot Shabbat 1:83, 86</ref> It is a stringency to make instant coffee in a Kli Shelishi.<ref>Orchot Shabbat 1 fnt. 178 quotes the Shevet Halevi who is concerned that since the instant coffee was cooked and then baked it is like it was never cooked. He cites however, that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Meor Hashabbat v. 3 n. 42:2) was lenient. He also cites from Meor Hashabbat that Rav Elyashiv was strict unless it would ruin the coffee being hot.</ref>
#It is permitted to make instant coffee and then to add milk and sugar to a Kli Sheni since it was cooked in its production.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 1:49, 54. Rav Moshe Feinstein (Igros Moshe O.C. 4:74:16), Orchot Shabbat 1:83, 86</ref> It is a stringency to make instant coffee in a Kli Shelishi.<ref>Orchot Shabbat 1 fnt. 178 quotes the Shevet Halevi who is concerned that since the instant coffee was cooked and then baked it is like it was never cooked. He cites however, that Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Meor Hashabbat v. 3 n. 42:2) was lenient. He also cites from Meor Hashabbat that Rav Elyashiv was strict unless it would ruin the coffee being hot.</ref>
#Making Starbucks VIA coffee is permitted specifically in a kli shelishi and not a kli rishon or kli sheni since it includes roasted kernels that aren't pre-cooked.<ref>[https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/910594/rabbi-ike-sultan/is-it-permitted-to-make-starbucks-via-coffee-on-shabbos-/ Article by Rabbi Sultan on YUTorah]. See [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/911368/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-making-starbucks-via-coffee-on-shabbos/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz's Ten Minute Halacha] on this topic. He presents three basic opinions. Either it can be made in a kli sheni, kli shelishi, or shouldn't be made at all on Shabbat. Rabbi Yona Reiss's opinion is recorded on the [http://www.crcweb.org/faq/faqanswer.php?faqid=78 CRC site].</ref>
#Making Starbucks VIA coffee is permitted specifically in a kli shelishi and not a kli rishon or kli sheni since it includes roasted kernels that aren't pre-cooked.<ref>Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz (RJJ v. 77 p. 62), [https://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/910594/rabbi-ike-sultan/is-it-permitted-to-make-starbucks-via-coffee-on-shabbos-/ Article by Rabbi Sultan on YUTorah]. See [https://www.yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/911368/rabbi-aryeh-lebowitz/ten-minute-halacha-making-starbucks-via-coffee-on-shabbos/ Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz's Ten Minute Halacha] on this topic. He presents three basic opinions. Either it can be made in a kli sheni, kli shelishi, or shouldn't be made at all on Shabbat. Rabbi Yona Reiss's opinion is recorded on the [http://www.crcweb.org/faq/faqanswer.php?faqid=78 CRC site].</ref>
{{Using a French Press or Filter on Shabbat and Yom Tov}}
{{Using a French Press or Filter on Shabbat and Yom Tov}}
#Setting a coffee machine in a timer to make fresh coffee in Shabbat is inappropriate and ill-advised.<ref>Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz (RJJ v. 77 p. 73)</ref>


==Benefiting from Food Cooked on Shabbat==
==Benefiting from Food Cooked on Shabbat==
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