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==Differences between a Bedika Cloth and a Ketem==
==Differences between a Bedika Cloth and a Ketem==
# Unlike a ketem any blood even a minimal amount found on a bedika cloth renders the woman tameh.<ref>The achronim learn that blood found on a bedika cloth is like the woman actually saw blood and is certainly tameh. Most achronim consider the tumah on a bedika cloth to possibly be of Biblical tumah and not just rabbinic. One source that indicates that the tumah is Biblical is the gemara Niddah 14a which states that blood found on a bedika cloth renders the woman tameh niddah. Rashi s.v. tameh implies that this is a certain tumah. Regarding whether this is a Biblical concern, see the Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 who cites the Chavot Daat, Sidrei Tahara 183:2, and Peleti 190:1 who considers the blood on the bedika cloth to be Biblical. The Rambam (Isurei Biyah 9:1) is a strong proof that is of Biblical significance, while the Hagahot Maimoniyot (Isurei Biyah 4:20) implies that it is rabbinic. Shulchan Aruch Harav (Kuntres Acharon 183:2), Rabbi Akiva Eiger 1:62, Aruch Hashulchan 183:55, Badei Hashulchan 183:6, and Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 17 hold that it is potentially Biblical even if she says that there was no hargasha. See Yabia Omer YD 8:16 where he clarifies that he agrees with the achronim that it is of Biblical concern unlike the Netah Shashuim who thinks that it is only rabbinic if there was no hargasha. Hear Rabbi Mordechai Willig ([http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/872192/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/niddah-shiur-83-hargasha-today/ Niddah Shiur 83] at the end) who explains that according to his explanation of hargasha the bedika cloth is only rabbinic but nonetheless it doesn't have any leniencies of ketamim.</ref>
# Unlike a ketem any blood even a minimal amount found on a bedika cloth renders the woman tameh.<ref>The achronim learn that blood found on a bedika cloth is like the woman actually saw blood and is certainly tameh. Most achronim consider the tumah on a bedika cloth to possibly be of biblical tumah and not just rabbinic. One source that indicates that the tumah is biblical is the gemara Niddah 14a which states that blood found on a bedika cloth renders the woman tameh niddah. Rashi s.v. tameh implies that this is a certain tumah. Regarding whether this is a biblical concern, see the Pitchei Teshuva 183:1 who cites the Chavot Daat, Sidrei Tahara 183:2, and Peleti 190:1 who considers the blood on the bedika cloth to be biblical. The Rambam (Isurei Biyah 9:1) is a strong proof that is of biblical significance, while the Hagahot Maimoniyot (Isurei Biyah 4:20) implies that it is rabbinic. Shulchan Aruch Harav (Kuntres Acharon 183:2), Rabbi Akiva Eiger 1:62, Aruch Hashulchan 183:55, Badei Hashulchan 183:6, and Taharat Habayit v. 1 p. 17 hold that it is potentially biblical even if she says that there was no hargasha. See Yabia Omer YD 8:16 where he clarifies that he agrees with the achronim that it is of biblical concern unlike the Netah Shashuim who thinks that it is only rabbinic if there was no hargasha. Hear Rabbi Mordechai Willig ([http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/872192/rabbi-mordechai-i-willig/niddah-shiur-83-hargasha-today/ Niddah Shiur 83] at the end) who explains that according to his explanation of hargasha the bedika cloth is only rabbinic but nonetheless it doesn't have any leniencies of ketamim.</ref>
# Becoming tameh because of blood on a bedika cloth can create a veset unlike blood found as a ketem.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 190:54</ref>
# Becoming tameh because of blood on a bedika cloth can create a veset unlike blood found as a ketem.<Ref>Shulchan Aruch 190:54</ref>


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# If a woman loses her bedika cloth that she is sure was a clean color, she is believed to say so.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 188:2 </ref>
# If a woman loses her bedika cloth that she is sure was a clean color, she is believed to say so.<ref> Shulchan Aruch 188:2 </ref>
# If a woman loses her bedika cloth that she was unsure about before she shows it to the rabbi, she becomes forbidden to her husband and must count 7 nekiim over again.<ref> Rav Hershel Schachter (notes to The Laws and Concepts of Niddah by Rabbi Sobolofsky pg. 306) </ref>
# If a woman loses her bedika cloth that she was unsure about before she shows it to the rabbi, she becomes forbidden to her husband and must count 7 nekiim over again.<ref> Rav Hershel Schachter (notes to The Laws and Concepts of Niddah by Rabbi Sobolofsky pg. 306) </ref>
==Who is Qualified to Decide==
===Husband===
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===Getting a Second Opinion===
# Once a cloth has been declared tameh by a rabbi, it may not be shown to a second rabbi without mentioning that it had been previously declared unclean.<ref> Taharat habayit 1:6:5, Shoshanat Ha'amakim 3:7</ref>
==Trusting Your Wife==
# A women who said that she is a niddah or not a niddah she is believed.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 185:3</ref>
# If she says she is a niddah and then says in fact she wasn't a niddah she isn't believed unless she has a reasonable excuse why she lied.<ref>Shulchan Aruch Y.D. 185:3</ref>
# If she later says that was joking and in fact she isn't a niddah she isn't believed with her second statement unless she has an excuse as to why she said she was a niddah previously.<ref>Dor Hamelaktim Niddah v. 1 p. 111 cites the Baal Hatrumah 91 who writes that even if she says it was a joke she's still a niddah and not believed that it was a joke unless she has another excuse. They also cite that this is accepted by the poskim including Levush 183:3, Bach 185:4, Shach 185:2, Graz 185:4, Taharat Habayit 4:3, Shiurei Shevet Halevi 185:1, Pitchei Halacha p. 102</ref>


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