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# Someone who holds that it’s forbidden to do a certain activity on [[Shabbat]] may not ask another Jew who holds that it’s permissible to do that activity on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 93) writes that it’s forbidden to ask a fellow Jew to open a can or bottle for him on [[Shabbat]] if the one requesting holds that one is forbidden to do so. He supports this with Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:119:5. | # Someone who holds that it’s forbidden to do a certain activity on [[Shabbat]] may not ask another Jew who holds that it’s permissible to do that activity on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> The 39 Melachos (Rabbi Ribiat, vol 1, pg 93) writes that it’s forbidden to ask a fellow Jew to open a can or bottle for him on [[Shabbat]] if the one requesting holds that one is forbidden to do so. He supports this with Sh”t Igrot Moshe 4:119:5. | ||
Many poskim also forbid including Tal Imrati (18:11, pg 190) quoting Chacham Ben Tzion Abba Shaul, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 3, pg 217-9) quoting Rav Ovadyah Yosef, Banim Chavivim (Siman 18, pg 91) quoting Rabbi Eliezer Waldenburg (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 1, Peninei HaMeor pg 552)) and Rav Chaim Kanievsky (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 2, pg 77)). Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (vol 1, Birur Halacha 10, pg 339) also rules stringently and gives four reasons. | Many poskim also forbid including Tal Imrati (18:11, pg 190) quoting Chacham Ben Tzion Abba Shaul, Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]], vol 3, pg 217-9) quoting Rav Ovadyah Yosef, Banim Chavivim (Siman 18, pg 91) quoting Rabbi Eliezer Waldenburg (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 1, Peninei HaMeor pg 552)) and Rav Chaim Kanievsky (from Meor Ha[[Shabbat]] (vol 2, pg 77)). Rav Yisrael Belsky in Shulchan HaLevi (vol 1, Birur Halacha 10, pg 339) also rules stringently and gives four reasons. | ||
* (1) Shelichut LeDvar Avierah. In the Gemara Bava Metsia 10b there is a dispute between Ravina and Rami Bar Chama regarding Shaliach LeDvar Avierah. Ravina holds that there’s only Ein Shaliach LeDvar Avierah when the one being sent is obligated in that prohibition, while Rami Bar Chama says that there’s Ein Shaliach LeDvar Avierah whenever the one being sent has the ability to choose to do it or not. The Rama C”M 182:1 rules like Ravina and so if the one being sent isn’t obligated then there is Shelichut. Rav Belsky concludes that since the one being sent follows a Rabbi who holds it’s permissible to open a bottle he’s considered not obligated in that prohibition and there would be Shelichut. Thus, if he is asked by someone who doesn’t open | * (1) Shelichut LeDvar Avierah. In the Gemara Bava Metsia 10b there is a dispute between Ravina and Rami Bar Chama regarding Shaliach LeDvar Avierah. Ravina holds that there’s only Ein Shaliach LeDvar Avierah when the one being sent is obligated in that prohibition, while Rami Bar Chama says that there’s Ein Shaliach LeDvar Avierah whenever the one being sent has the ability to choose to do it or not. The Rama C”M 182:1 rules like Ravina and so if the one being sent isn’t obligated then there is Shelichut. Rav Belsky concludes that since the one being sent follows a Rabbi who holds it’s permissible to open a bottle he’s considered not obligated in that prohibition and there would be Shelichut. Thus, if he is asked by someone who doesn’t open bottles on Shabbat there would be a Deoritta violation of [[Shabbat]]. | ||
* (2) [[Lifnei Iver]]. Rav Belsky writes that since the opinion of those who hold it is forbidden is that it is forbidden for all Jews it would be forbidden to ask another Jew because of [[Lifnei Iver]]. | * (2) [[Lifnei Iver]]. Rav Belsky writes that since the opinion of those who hold it is forbidden is that it is forbidden for all Jews it would be forbidden to ask another Jew because of [[Lifnei Iver]]. | ||
* (3) [[Amirah LeYisrael]]. He quotes the Radvaz 4:258 who forbids [[Amirah LeYisrael]] because it should be no better than [[Amirah LeNochri]]. | * (3) [[Amirah LeYisrael]]. He quotes the Radvaz 4:258 who forbids [[Amirah LeYisrael]] because it should be no better than [[Amirah LeNochri]]. | ||
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* Tzitz Eliezer 12:37 suggests that you greet the driver with a shavua tov and hopefully the driver will respond shavua tov , and thereby fulfill his torah obligation of [[havdala]]. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kihilchita 58: note 31 disagreed and says this wouldn’t work and only [[shabbat]] shalom would potentially work to fulfill [[kiddish]] but shavua tov wouldn’t work for [[havdala]]. | * Tzitz Eliezer 12:37 suggests that you greet the driver with a shavua tov and hopefully the driver will respond shavua tov , and thereby fulfill his torah obligation of [[havdala]]. Shemirat [[Shabbat]] Kihilchita 58: note 31 disagreed and says this wouldn’t work and only [[shabbat]] shalom would potentially work to fulfill [[kiddish]] but shavua tov wouldn’t work for [[havdala]]. | ||
* Teshuvot Vihanhagot 1:161 writes that once a Jew has performed melacha he may continue to perform melacha for you even before [[havdala]]. Rav Shternbuch also raises the argument that the only reason melacha is prohibited in the first place is so that you wouldn’t forget to say [[havdala]], which wouldn’t apply to someone who doesn’t plan on saying it anyway. | * Teshuvot Vihanhagot 1:161 writes that once a Jew has performed melacha he may continue to perform melacha for you even before [[havdala]]. Rav Shternbuch also raises the argument that the only reason melacha is prohibited in the first place is so that you wouldn’t forget to say [[havdala]], which wouldn’t apply to someone who doesn’t plan on saying it anyway. | ||
* | * For clarification see [http://www.bknw.org/uploads/5/9/9/5/5995719/taxis_in_israel_on_motzai_shabbos.pdf Rabbi Aryeh Lebowitz] | ||
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===Giving directions to a non-observant Jewish driver=== | ===Giving directions to a non-observant Jewish driver=== | ||
