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# Mishna Brurah 308:10 writes that a kli for which a majority (or more) of it’s uses are forbidden is considered a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. On the other hand, some opinions maintain that even if only a minority of the uses of the kli are permitted, the kli is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter.<ref>Gedolot Elisha 308:19 </ref> | # Mishna Brurah 308:10 writes that a kli for which a majority (or more) of it’s uses are forbidden is considered a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. On the other hand, some opinions maintain that even if only a minority of the uses of the kli are permitted, the kli is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter.<ref>Gedolot Elisha 308:19 </ref> | ||
==Types of pots== | ==Types of pots== | ||
# If it’s designated for serving and [[cooking]], and the majority of it’s uses is serving it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. <ref>Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 43 note 25(4)) writes this case is obvious and according to everyone the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. </ref> | # If it’s designated for serving and [[cooking]], and the majority of it’s uses is serving it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter.<ref>Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 43 note 25(4)) writes this case is obvious and according to everyone the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. </ref> | ||
# If it’s designated for serving and [[cooking]] and the majority of it’s uses is [[cooking]] it’s a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. (disputed) <ref>The Beiur Halacha (308 s.v. Kardom Lachtoch) sides that this case should be lenient but leaves it unresolved. From Mishna Brurah 308:20 it seems that one may be lenient. The Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (Chapter 20 note 37), Badei HaShulchan 108:12, and Nachalat Yisrael (pg 139) are lenient. See Shalmei Yehonatan (pg 45). </ref> | # If it’s designated for serving and [[cooking]] and the majority of it’s uses is [[cooking]] it’s a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. (disputed) <ref>The Beiur Halacha (308 s.v. Kardom Lachtoch) sides that this case should be lenient but leaves it unresolved. From Mishna Brurah 308:20 it seems that one may be lenient. The Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (Chapter 20 note 37), Badei HaShulchan 108:12, and Nachalat Yisrael (pg 139) are lenient. See Shalmei Yehonatan (pg 45). </ref> | ||
# If it’s designated for [[cooking]] and is sometimes used for serving, it’s a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. (disputed) <ref>The Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26 considers it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. So agree the achronim including Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 46), Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:20, pg 58), Rav Wosner in Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:127(3) and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98). However, the Gedolot Elisha 308:19 writes that there’s what to rely on to be lenient in this case. See further. | # If it’s designated for [[cooking]] and is sometimes used for serving, it’s a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. (disputed) <ref>The Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26 considers it [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. So agree the achronim including Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15, Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 46), Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:20, pg 58), Rav Wosner in Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:127(3) and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98). However, the Gedolot Elisha 308:19 writes that there’s what to rely on to be lenient in this case. See further. | ||
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* These achronim (who are strict regarding an empty pot) include: Pri Megadim (M”Z beginning of 308), Ashel Avraham 308:9, 279:2, Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Chazon Ish 47:11, Derech HaChaim ([[Muktzeh]]#13; Rabbi Yacov MeLisa, author of the Netivot), Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 46), Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15, Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:20, pg 58), Rav Wosner in Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:127(3) and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98). | * These achronim (who are strict regarding an empty pot) include: Pri Megadim (M”Z beginning of 308), Ashel Avraham 308:9, 279:2, Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Chazon Ish 47:11, Derech HaChaim ([[Muktzeh]]#13; Rabbi Yacov MeLisa, author of the Netivot), Sefer Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 46), Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15, Rabbi Binyamin Zilber (Sh”t Az Nidabru 9:20, pg 58), Rav Wosner in Sh”t Shevet HaLevi 1:127(3) and Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98). | ||
* On the other hand, some authorities are lenient including the Chaye Adam 66:3, and Kitzur S”A 88:8. Gedolot Elisha (308:19) agrees that many are strict in this regard and consider it a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] but concludes that the minhag of Baghdad is to be lenient to treat a empty pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter and there is what to rely on. So writes Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105). </ref> | * On the other hand, some authorities are lenient including the Chaye Adam 66:3, and Kitzur S”A 88:8. Gedolot Elisha (308:19) agrees that many are strict in this regard and consider it a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] but concludes that the minhag of Baghdad is to be lenient to treat a empty pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter and there is what to rely on. So writes Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105). </ref> | ||
# If it’s designated for [[cooking]] and is never used for serving, it’s a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:10, 20, Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105) </ref> | # If it’s designated for [[cooking]] and is never used for serving, it’s a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]].<ref> Mishna Brurah 308:10, 20, Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105) </ref> | ||
# The lid has the same status as the pot. <ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 </ref> | # The lid has the same status as the pot.<ref>Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 </ref> | ||
==A Full Pot== | ==A Full Pot== | ||
# A pot that was used to cook in it before Shabbat and still has food in it is non-[[Muktzeh]] as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-[[Muktzeh]]. <ref> Gemara Shabbat 123a. Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-[[Muktzeh]] as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-[[Muktzeh]]. This is also the opinion of Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref> | # A pot that was used to cook in it before Shabbat and still has food in it is non-[[Muktzeh]] as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-[[Muktzeh]].<ref> Gemara Shabbat 123a. Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-[[Muktzeh]] as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-[[Muktzeh]]. This is also the opinion of Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref> | ||
## A pot that still has food in it even if it is less than a [[Kezayit]] is considered non-[[Muktzeh]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref> | ## A pot that still has food in it even if it is less than a [[Kezayit]] is considered non-[[Muktzeh]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref> | ||
# A pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref> | # A pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> Shulchan Aruch HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref> | ||
# If there was food during [[Bein HaShemashot]] and now is empty, it is a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat [[Shabbat]] 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47) consider an empty pot a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] </ref> | # If there was food during [[Bein HaShemashot]] and now is empty, it is a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]].<ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat [[Shabbat]] 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47) consider an empty pot a [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]] </ref> | ||
# If there was food during [[Bein HaShemashot]], one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref> | # If there was food during [[Bein HaShemashot]], one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref> | ||
# A pot that contains non-cooked food is considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 184) considers a pot with raw carrots or apples that are edible to be a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter since there was no action done upon the food with the pot and so the food in the pot doesn’t permit the pot just like a piece of bread is insufficient (Mishna Brurah 208:26). </ref> | # A pot that contains non-cooked food is considered [[Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur]]. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 184) considers a pot with raw carrots or apples that are edible to be a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter since there was no action done upon the food with the pot and so the food in the pot doesn’t permit the pot just like a piece of bread is insufficient (Mishna Brurah 208:26). </ref> | ||
