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# A pot which still has food that was cooked in it (from before Ben HaShemashot) is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. <ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. So rules Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref> | # A pot which still has food that was cooked in it (from before [[Ben HaShemashot]]) is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. <ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. So rules Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref> | ||
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot and now is empty is a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat [[Shabbat]] 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47) consider it Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur </ref> | # If there was food during [[Ben HaShemashot]] and now is empty is a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat [[Shabbat]] 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei [[Shabbat]] (pg 47) consider it Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur </ref> | ||
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot, one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref> | # If there was food during [[Ben HaShemashot]], one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref> | ||
# If a pot was empty and food that was cooked in another pot was placed in there, the pot remains a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. If so, says the Nechamat Yisrael, all the more so if the food was cooked in another pot. </ref> | # If a pot was empty and food that was cooked in another pot was placed in there, the pot remains a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. If so, says the Nechamat Yisrael, all the more so if the food was cooked in another pot. </ref> | ||
# If there was no food during Ben HaShemashot, one may place inside it food that was cooked in it on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98) and Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406) are lenient, while Rabbi Binyamin Zilber is strict as he writes in Sh”t Az Nidbaru 9:20. </ref> | # If there was no food during [[Ben HaShemashot]], one may place inside it food that was cooked in it on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98) and Yalkut Yosef ([[Shabbat]] vol 2 pg 406) are lenient, while Rabbi Binyamin Zilber is strict as he writes in Sh”t Az Nidbaru 9:20. </ref> | ||
# A pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref> | # A pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref> | ||
# A pot that has food still in it that’s less than a [[Kezayit]] is considered non-Muktzeh. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref> | # A pot that has food still in it that’s less than a [[Kezayit]] is considered non-Muktzeh. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref> | ||
