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==Cooking pot that’s empty==
===Definition of Kli SheMelachto LeIsser===
===Definition of Kli SheMelachto LeIsser===
#Mishna Brurah 308:10 writes that a kli for which a majority (or more) of it’s uses are forbidden is considered a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. On t the other hand, some opinions (Gedolot Elisha 308:19, see ‘empty cooking pots’) hold that even if only a minority of the uses of the kli are permitted, the kli is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. </ref>
#Mishna Brurah 308:10 writes that a kli for which a majority (or more) of it’s uses are forbidden is considered a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. On t the other hand, some opinions (Gedolot Elisha 308:19, see ‘empty cooking pots’) hold that even if only a minority of the uses of the kli are permitted, the kli is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. </ref>
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* On the other hand, some authorities are lenient including the Chaye Adam 66:3, and Kitzur S”A 88:8. Gedolot Elisha (308:19) agrees that many are strict in this regard and consider it a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur but concludes that the minhag of Baghdad is to be lenient to treat a empty pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter and there is what to rely on. So writes Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105). </ref>
* On the other hand, some authorities are lenient including the Chaye Adam 66:3, and Kitzur S”A 88:8. Gedolot Elisha (308:19) agrees that many are strict in this regard and consider it a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur but concludes that the minhag of Baghdad is to be lenient to treat a empty pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter and there is what to rely on. So writes Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105). </ref>
# If it’s designated for cooking and is never used for serving, it’s a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:10, 20, Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105) </ref>
# If it’s designated for cooking and is never used for serving, it’s a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Mishna Brurah 308:10, 20, Yalkut Yosef (Kitzur S”A 308:105) </ref>
==Pot with food in it==
==Pot with food in it==
# A pot which still has food that was cooked in it (from before Ben HaShemashot) is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. <ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. So rules Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei Shabbat (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref>
# A pot which still has food that was cooked in it (from before Ben HaShemashot) is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. <ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes that a pot which still has food that was cooked in it is non-Muktzeh as the pot is subservient to the food which is non-Muktzeh. So rules Mishna Brurah 308:20, 26, Tiltulei Shabbat (pg 47), and Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata 20:15 (note 35). </ref>
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot and now is empty is a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat Shabbat 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei Shabbat (pg 47) consider it Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur </ref>  
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot and now is empty is a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <ref> Chazon Ish 47:11, Minchat Shabbat 88:16 (see Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4), Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 2 pg 406), and Tiltulei Shabbat (pg 47) consider it Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur </ref>  
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot, one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref>  
# If there was food during Ben HaShemashot, one emptied the pot, and then returned the food to the pot, some say the pot is Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. See Shuirei HaMincha 88:6. </ref> while others say it’s Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter as long as one intends to return the food to the pot even if one didn’t do it yet. <Ref> Shuirei HaMincha 88:6 who proves this from the Yerushalmi 17:4 </ref>  
# If a pot was empty and food that was cooked in another pot was placed in there, the pot remains a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. If so, says the Nechamat Yisrael, all the more so if the food was cooked in another pot. </ref>
# If a pot was empty and food that was cooked in another pot was placed in there, the pot remains a Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael pg 181 implies from Chazon Ish 47:11 that this wouldn’t help make the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. If so, says the Nechamat Yisrael, all the more so if the food was cooked in another pot. </ref>
# If there was no food during Ben HaShemashot, one may place inside it food that was cooked in it on Shabbat. <ref> Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98) and Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 2 pg 406) are lenient, while Rabbi Binyamin Zilber is strict as he writes in Sh”t Az Nidbaru 9:20. </ref>
# If there was no food during Ben HaShemashot, one may place inside it food that was cooked in it on Shabbat. <ref> Rav Elyashiv in Shalmei Yehuda (pg 98) and Yalkut Yosef (Shabbat vol 2 pg 406) are lenient, while Rabbi Binyamin Zilber is strict as he writes in Sh”t Az Nidbaru 9:20. </ref>
 
# A pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref>
# a pot with food may be moved for protection of the pot as a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter, and some say it may be moved for no reason. <Ref> S”A HaRav 308:22 writes explicitly that the pot becomes subservient to the food and can be moved for no reason just like the food. However, the Nechamat Yisrael (pg 180) argues that from the Rishonim and Achronim it seems that the leniency only extends to making the pot a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter. So it seems from the Shemirat Shabbat KeHilchata (20 note 35). </ref>
 
# A pot that has food still in it that’s less than a kezayit is considered non-Muktzeh. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref>
# A pot that has food still in it that’s less than a kezayit is considered non-Muktzeh. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 179) </ref>
# A pot that contains non-cooked food is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 184) considers a pot with raw carrots or apples that are edible to be a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter since there was no action done upon the food with the pot and so the food in the pot doesn’t permit the pot just like a piece of bread is insufficient (Mishna Brurah 208:26). </ref>
# A pot that contains non-cooked food is considered Kli Sh’Melachto LeIssur. <Ref> Nechamat Yisrael (pg 184) considers a pot with raw carrots or apples that are edible to be a Kli Sh’Melachto LeHeter since there was no action done upon the food with the pot and so the food in the pot doesn’t permit the pot just like a piece of bread is insufficient (Mishna Brurah 208:26). </ref>
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