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* What is considered dried to be invalid? The Raavad in Tamim Deyim siman 232 (also in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=50862&st=%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%95&pgnum=142 Raavad on Sukkah 34b]) writes explicitly that the measure of what is considered dry for Etrog and Lulav doesn't apply to Hadas and Aravot since they dry out more quickly. He writes that if the leaves crumble when touched with one's fingernail they are certainly considered dry and invalid. However, he says that even if the leaves are so dry that they paled and aren't green at all they are invalid. The language clearly implies that it is only invalid if the leaves turn white. The Bikkurei Yakov 647:4 quotes the Raavad. Shulchan Aruch Harav 647:6, Mishna Brurah (Shaar Hatziyun 647:6), Aruch Hashulchan 647:8, and Chazon Ovadia p. 317 agree that it is only invalid if the leaves turn white. (See Mishna Brurah who only quotes the phrase that the leaves need to lose their green color to be invalid.)</ref> | * What is considered dried to be invalid? The Raavad in Tamim Deyim siman 232 (also in [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=50862&st=%D7%A9%D7%99%D7%9C%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%95&pgnum=142 Raavad on Sukkah 34b]) writes explicitly that the measure of what is considered dry for Etrog and Lulav doesn't apply to Hadas and Aravot since they dry out more quickly. He writes that if the leaves crumble when touched with one's fingernail they are certainly considered dry and invalid. However, he says that even if the leaves are so dry that they paled and aren't green at all they are invalid. The language clearly implies that it is only invalid if the leaves turn white. The Bikkurei Yakov 647:4 quotes the Raavad. Shulchan Aruch Harav 647:6, Mishna Brurah (Shaar Hatziyun 647:6), Aruch Hashulchan 647:8, and Chazon Ovadia p. 317 agree that it is only invalid if the leaves turn white. (See Mishna Brurah who only quotes the phrase that the leaves need to lose their green color to be invalid.)</ref> | ||
# If a majority of the leaves fall off the [[aravah]], it is invalid.<ref> The Mishna (33b) states that if a minority of an [[aravah]]’s leaves fall off, it remains valid. The Rosh (3:13) infers that if a majority of the leaves fall off, the [[aravah]] will be invalid. The Tur (647:1), however, cites the Baal HaItur as saying that as long as one leaf remains attached, the [[aravah]] is still usable. Shulchan Aruch (647:2) rules in accordance with the Rosh. Mishna Brurah (647:9) clarifies that this will only invalidate the [[aravah]] if a majority of the leaves within the minimum 3 [[Tefachim]] fall off. Chazon Ovadia (p. 318) writes that there is no difference between the leaves falling off on their own and someone pulling them off. </ref> | # If a majority of the leaves fall off the [[aravah]], it is invalid.<ref> The Mishna (33b) states that if a minority of an [[aravah]]’s leaves fall off, it remains valid. The Rosh (3:13) infers that if a majority of the leaves fall off, the [[aravah]] will be invalid. The Tur (647:1), however, cites the Baal HaItur as saying that as long as one leaf remains attached, the [[aravah]] is still usable. Shulchan Aruch (647:2) rules in accordance with the Rosh. Mishna Brurah (647:9) clarifies that this will only invalidate the [[aravah]] if a majority of the leaves within the minimum 3 [[Tefachim]] fall off. Chazon Ovadia (p. 318) writes that there is no difference between the leaves falling off on their own and someone pulling them off. </ref> | ||
# The [[aravah]] isn't invalidated if a piece of some of the leaves | # The [[aravah]] isn't invalidated if a piece of some of the leaves are removed unless a majority of the leaves are removed. <Ref>Chazon Ovadia ([[Sukkot]] p. 324)</ref> | ||
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