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# It is permitted to drop off shirts at the cleaners before [[Shabbat]] if there is a fixed price and one leaves them enough time to clean it without having to do so on [[Shabbat]]. Some say that if the non-Jew will have to work overtime if he doesn't want to work on [[Shabbat]] it is considered if one stipulated that he work on [[Shabbat]], while others say that even if the non-Jew will have to work overtime so as not to work on [[Shabbat]] it is not like one stipulated that the non-Jew work on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> | # It is permitted to drop off shirts at the cleaners before [[Shabbat]] if there is a fixed price and one leaves them enough time to clean it without having to do so on [[Shabbat]]. Some say that if the non-Jew will have to work overtime if he doesn't want to work on [[Shabbat]] it is considered if one stipulated that he work on [[Shabbat]], while others say that even if the non-Jew will have to work overtime so as not to work on [[Shabbat]] it is not like one stipulated that the non-Jew work on [[Shabbat]]. <ref> | ||
* The Mishnah ([[Shabbat]] 17b) records a dispute between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel regarding whether one may leave clothes at a non-Jewish cleaner before [[Shabbat]]. Beit Shammai forbid, while Beit Hillel permit. The Gemara (19a) records another dispute regarding giving a letter to a non-Jewish mailman before [[Shabbat]], where Beit Hillel permit only if one stipulates a price for the job, while Beit Shammai forbid in all cases. Rashi s.v. Ela explains that once a price is fixed, the non-Jew may deliver it at his own convenience, and if he does so on [[Shabbat]], he is not considered to be doing it for the Jew. Tosfot s.v. Ela and Rambam 6:12 apply the condition of stipulating a price to the case of giving clothes to a cleaner. | * The Mishnah ([[Shabbat]] 17b) records a dispute between Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel regarding whether one may leave clothes at a non-Jewish cleaner before [[Shabbat]]. Beit Shammai forbid, while Beit Hillel permit. The Gemara (19a) records another dispute regarding giving a letter to a non-Jewish mailman before [[Shabbat]], where Beit Hillel permit only if one stipulates a price for the job, while Beit Shammai forbid in all cases. Rashi s.v. Ela explains that once a price is fixed, the non-Jew may deliver it at his own convenience, and if he does so on [[Shabbat]], he is not considered to be doing it for the Jew. Tosfot s.v. Ela and Rambam 6:12 apply the condition of stipulating a price to the case of giving clothes to a cleaner. | ||
* Beit Yosef 252:2 quotes the Smag and other Rishonim who clarify that one may give clothes to a cleaner only if one does not stipulate that it be cleaned on [[Shabbat]]. S”A 252:2 codifies this as halacha. | * Beit Yosef 252:2 quotes the Smag and other Rishonim who clarify that one may give clothes to a cleaner only if one does not stipulate that it be cleaned on [[Shabbat]]. S”A 252:2 codifies this as halacha. Mishna Brurah 252:16 adds that if one specifies that he wants the clothes to be ready on Motza’ei [[Shabbat]], it is as if one told the non-Jew to clean it on [[Shabbat]]. | ||
* The Pri Megadim (M”Z 244:5) writes that if the Jew wants the job to be finished by a certain time that would require the non-Jew to work on [[Shabbat]] unless he would overexert himself and work at night, it is considered as if the Jew stipulated that the non-Jew work on [[Shabbat]]. Similarly, Rav Hershel Schachter (Halachipedia Article 5773 #6) said that if by the nature of the business it is known that they won’t clean it after-hours but will do it on [[Shabbat]], it is as if one stipulated that they do it on [[Shabbat]]. Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv (quoted by Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] p. 66), and Rav Chaim Pinchas Sheinburg (quoted by Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] p. 66) agreed. | * The Pri Megadim (M”Z 244:5) writes that if the Jew wants the job to be finished by a certain time that would require the non-Jew to work on [[Shabbat]] unless he would overexert himself and work at night, it is considered as if the Jew stipulated that the non-Jew work on [[Shabbat]]. Similarly, Rav Hershel Schachter (Halachipedia Article 5773 #6) said that if by the nature of the business it is known that they won’t clean it after-hours but will do it on [[Shabbat]], it is as if one stipulated that they do it on [[Shabbat]]. Rav Yosef Shalom Elyashiv (quoted by Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] p. 66), and Rav Chaim Pinchas Sheinburg (quoted by Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] p. 66) agreed. | ||
* Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] (p. 66) infers from Eliyah Rabba 244:12 and Igrot Moshe 4:53 that even if the non-Jew would have to work into the night to complete it before [[Shabbat]], it is not considered as though one stipulated that it be done on [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | * Sanctity of [[Shabbos]] (p. 66) infers from Eliyah Rabba 244:12 and Igrot Moshe 4:53 that even if the non-Jew would have to work into the night to complete it before [[Shabbat]], it is not considered as though one stipulated that it be done on [[Shabbat]]. </ref> | ||
