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# Nothing is added into the beracha of meayn shalosh (al hamichya, al hagefen, or all haetz) for [[chanuka]]. <ref> Mishna Brurah 682:2, Yalkut Yosef Moadim 240, Yabia Omer 3:36. Yalkut Yosef also adds that if you did say something by mistake, you would not go back. </ref> | # Nothing is added into the beracha of meayn shalosh (al hamichya, al hagefen, or all haetz) for [[chanuka]]. <ref> Mishna Brurah 682:2, Yalkut Yosef Moadim 240, Yabia Omer 3:36. Yalkut Yosef also adds that if you did say something by mistake, you would not go back. </ref> | ||
#Al hanissim is recited even on the first night of [[chanuka]], even if you haven't lit candles yet, as well as [[Mussaf]] of [[shabbat]] and [[Mussaf]] of [[rosh chodesh]] even though there is no [[Mussaf]] on [[chanuka]]. <ref> http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1063 </ref> | #Al hanissim is recited even on the first night of [[chanuka]], even if you haven't lit candles yet, as well as [[Mussaf]] of [[shabbat]] and [[Mussaf]] of [[rosh chodesh]] even though there is no [[Mussaf]] on [[chanuka]]. <ref> http://www.dailyhalacha.com/displayRead.asp?readID=1063 </ref> | ||
#One should not skip al hanissim in order that he be able to finish shemoneh esrei in time so that he can answer [[kaddish]] or [[kedusha]]. <ref> | #One should not skip al hanissim in order that he be able to finish shemoneh esrei in time so that he can answer [[kaddish]] or [[kedusha]]. <ref> According to Rav Ovadia the same would apply on [[rosh chodesh]] with [[Yaaleh VeYavo]], as well as aneinu on a fast day and this is despite the fact that the shemoneh esrei is entirely valid without them and according to some poskim the [[kedusha]] is a diorayta. </ref> | ||
# If someone is saying Shemona Esrei and realizes that if he is going to say Al Hanissim he won’t be able to catch Kedusha with the congregation he shouldn’t skip Al Hanissim.<Ref>Chazon Ovadia Chanuka p. 194 writes that he shouldn’t skip Al Hanissim in order to reach kedusha with the congregation. Yabia Omer OC 2:34, 9:66, Yalkut Yosef Moadim p. 240, Yechave Daat 1:77, Tzemach Tzedek Miluyim 11, Pri Hasadeh 3:109 agreed with Chazon Ovadia against the Yaskil Avdi 8:10. Here are the reasons of Chazon Ovadia: | |||
* a) One is currently involved in a mitzvah of Shemona Esrei which includes Al Hanissim and so one shouldn’t stop one mitzvah to do another mitzvah based on the principle of Osek Bmitzvah Patur Min Hamitzvah (Ritva Sukkah). | |||
* b) The principle of Osek Bmitzvah Patur Min Hamitzvah can apply even for being involved in a derabbanan mitzvah not to do a deoritta mitzvah. Is osek in a mitzvah derabbanan exempt from a mitzvah deoritta? Pri Megadim and Mishna Brurah 72 assume not. However, Chazon Ovadia (Chanuka p. 194 and Aveilut v. 1 p. 130-2) holds yes. He quotes many who prove this point: Rav Avraham Min Hahar Sukkah 26a, Mispeh Eytan Sukkah 10b, Kerem Shlomo 1:23, Shem Aryeh YD 64, Shem Chadash p. 102d, Imrei Binah 13:3, Kovetz Haarot Yevamot 48:11, Petach Dvir 1:25, Yeshuot Yakov 586:4, Emek Bracha p. 123. See R’ Shlomo Kluger in Kinat Sofrim 29. | |||
* c) Since one can later hear kedusha with Shomea K’onah one isn’t completely missing out on the mitzvah deoritta of kedusha anyway. That is based on the opinion of Rashi Sukkah 38b unlike Tosfot Brachot 21b. Shulchan Aruch 124 follows Rashi. | |||
* Is Al Hanissim part of the mitzvah of davening? The [http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=606&st=&pgnum=94 Eretz Tzvi 24] discusses that perhaps it is permitted to skip Al Hanissim since according to some rishonim is a separate mitzvah as compared with Shemona Esrei (and Osek Bmitzvah is inapplicable). His conclusion that one many not skip since it is possible to hear kedusha with Shomea K’onah. | |||
* Malbushei Mordechai 3:59 brings a proof for this from the Ramban (quoted by Ran in Rabbi Eliezer Dmilah) who says that anytime we’re contemplating a mitzvah we only look at the present and not the ramifications afterwards even if they will involve something less than ideal. However, Yabia Omer OC 9:66 writes that this isn’t a great proof since the Baal Hameor disagrees with the Ramban and the Bet Yosef YD 266 argues that the Rambam and Rif agree with the Baal Hameor. Additionally, that Ramban might only be relevant to Brit Milah which is very serious and has karet but not other mitzvot. Lastly, the Baal Hameor might not be relevant since he is only suggesting being passive but not to actively change a situation because of a later mitzvah.</ref> | |||
==If you Forget== | ==If you Forget== | ||
#If one forgot in either [[Birkat HaMazon]] or the shemoneh esrei and has reached the name of Hashem in the beracha then he shouldn't go back, but as long as he still has not begun the beracha that follows it, he should still go back. <ref> Tur OC 682:1, Shulchan Aruch 682:1 based on the Tosefta in [[Berachot]] 3:12. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 238, Torat Hamoadim 9:12 by Rabbi David Yosef and Yechave Daat 5:49 say that you should not say lamdeini chukecha once you say Hashem's name because that would be considered a [[hefsek]], unlike the eshel avraham 695 who says that you should say lamdeini chukecha. Aruch Hashulchan 682:3. Mishna Brurah 682:3 adds that this even applies if it is [[Shabbat]] and there is an obligation to eat, he should still not go back. The Bach 682:1 based on the Mordechai as well as the Ravya 563 page 284, however, disagree and say in [[Birkat HaMazon]] one should go back. </ref> | #If one forgot in either [[Birkat HaMazon]] or the shemoneh esrei and has reached the name of Hashem in the beracha then he shouldn't go back, but as long as he still has not begun the beracha that follows it, he should still go back. <ref> Tur OC 682:1, Shulchan Aruch 682:1 based on the Tosefta in [[Berachot]] 3:12. Yalkut Yosef Moadim 238, Torat Hamoadim 9:12 by Rabbi David Yosef and Yechave Daat 5:49 say that you should not say lamdeini chukecha once you say Hashem's name because that would be considered a [[hefsek]], unlike the eshel avraham 695 who says that you should say lamdeini chukecha. Aruch Hashulchan 682:3. Mishna Brurah 682:3 adds that this even applies if it is [[Shabbat]] and there is an obligation to eat, he should still not go back. The Bach 682:1 based on the Mordechai as well as the Ravya 563 page 284, however, disagree and say in [[Birkat HaMazon]] one should go back. </ref> | ||
