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# Many hold that there is an obligation for one to wash Netilat Yadayim upon leaving a bathroom even if one did not relieve himself<ref>Mordechai Berachot 194, Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 4:18, Mishna Brurah 4:40. See Halacha Brurah (Otzrot Yosef 1:12) who discusses this question at length and cites the Magen Avraham 227:2 who implies that there's no obligation of Netilat Yadayim for just entering a bathroom but the Zohar holds that there is.</ref>. Many poskim hold no kli is necessary and neither is washing three times.<ref>https://www.ou.org/torah/machshava/tzarich-iyun/tzarich_iyun_washing_after_leaving_the_washroom/ quoting Yalkut Yosef v. 3 p. 96. He points out that there is a stringency to wash with a kli outside the bathroom but washing with a kli in the bathroom is pointless. Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Ohr LeTzion 2:1:15) held that a keli is nice lechatechilah but not necessary MeIkar HaDin; however, three times is always necessary. Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108 fn 4) lightens some of his arguments by noting how one cannot compare this to washing in the morning. Rav Mordechai Lebhar (Magen Avot Orach Chaim 4:18) quotes Rav Shalom Meshash ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21291&st=&pgnum=86 Shemesh uMagen vol. 3 Siman 37]) as reporting that the custom in Morocco was always to wash once at the sink without a kli according to the simple reading of Shulchan Aruch that a kli is only necessary for the morning washing.</ref>
# Many hold that there is an obligation for one to wash Netilat Yadayim upon leaving a bathroom even if one did not relieve himself<ref>Mordechai Berachot 194, Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 4:18, Mishna Brurah 4:40. See Halacha Brurah (Otzrot Yosef 1:12) who discusses this question at length and cites the Magen Avraham 227:2 who implies that there's no obligation of Netilat Yadayim for just entering a bathroom but the Zohar holds that there is.</ref>. Many poskim hold no kli is necessary and neither is washing three times.<ref>https://www.ou.org/torah/machshava/tzarich-iyun/tzarich_iyun_washing_after_leaving_the_washroom/ quoting Yalkut Yosef v. 3 p. 96. He points out that there is a stringency to wash with a kli outside the bathroom but washing with a kli in the bathroom is pointless. Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Ohr LeTzion 2:1:15) held that a keli is nice lechatechilah but not necessary MeIkar HaDin; however, three times is always necessary. Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108 fn 4) lightens some of his arguments by noting how one cannot compare this to washing in the morning. Rav Mordechai Lebhar (Magen Avot Orach Chaim 4:18) quotes Rav Shalom Meshash ([https://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=21291&st=&pgnum=86 Shemesh uMagen vol. 3 Siman 37]) as reporting that the custom in Morocco was always to wash once at the sink without a kli according to the simple reading of Shulchan Aruch that a kli is only necessary for the morning washing.</ref>
# The status of modern day bathrooms, where everything gets flushed away, is subject to a debate among contemporary authorities. Some argue it retains the same status of Beit HaKisseh as the times of the Gemara, while others argue it does not.<ref>The Gemara (Berachot 26a) describes a "Beit HaKisei deParsai" (Persian bathroom), which was a particularly clean bathroom because the waste would roll down to a pit a distance from the actual toilet, and therefore did not have some of the dinim of regular bathrooms. Modern poskim discuss whether our bathrooms should be treated like a beis hakisei diParai, and thus one would not require netilas yadayim upon exiting them, or not. The Chazon Ish (17:4) leaves this question in doubt, since unlike the bathrooms of the Parsai, in which the waste was removed immediately. As the Rabeinu Yonah quotes from Rav Hai Gaon on the Gemara in [[Brachos]], our toilets hold the waste for a period of time until it is flushed away. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichos Shlomo [[Tefilla]] 20:24), however, is lenient about this, and the Minchas Yitzchok ([[teshuva]] 1:60) concludes that in cases of need (bishas hadchak) one may be lenient not to wash upon leaving our bathrooms. [http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/891935/rabbi-hershel-schachter/berachos-56-25ab-modern-bathrooms-tzoah-libo-roeh-es-haervah-glass-akum-issur-chal-al-issur/ Rav Schachter (Brachot Shiur 56 min 3-4)] holds that there's no ruach raah in our bathrooms today.<br/>
# The status of modern day bathrooms, where everything gets flushed away, is subject to a debate among contemporary authorities. Some argue it retains the same status of Beit HaKisseh as the times of the Gemara, while others argue it does not.<ref>The Gemara (Berachot 26a) describes a "Beit HaKisei deParsai" (Persian bathroom), which was a particularly clean bathroom because the waste would roll down to a pit a distance from the actual toilet, and therefore did not have some of the dinim of regular bathrooms. Modern poskim discuss whether our bathrooms should be treated like a beis hakisei diParai, and thus one would not require netilas yadayim upon exiting them, or not. The Chazon Ish (17:4) leaves this question in doubt, since unlike the bathrooms of the Parsai, in which the waste was removed immediately. As the Rabeinu Yonah quotes from Rav Hai Gaon on the Gemara in [[Brachos]], our toilets hold the waste for a period of time until it is flushed away. Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Halichos Shlomo [[Tefilla]] 20:24), however, is lenient about this, and the Minchas Yitzchok ([[teshuva]] 1:60) concludes that in cases of need (bishas hadchak) one may be lenient not to wash upon leaving our bathrooms. [http://www.yutorah.org/sidebar/lecture.cfm/891935/rabbi-hershel-schachter/berachos-56-25ab-modern-bathrooms-tzoah-libo-roeh-es-haervah-glass-akum-issur-chal-al-issur/ Rav Schachter (Brachot Shiur 56 min 3-4)] holds that there's no ruach raah in our bathrooms today.<br/>
Rav Ovadia Yosef (Yachava Daat 3:1) wasn't lenient to wash in a bathroom unless there was no other option. Yalkut Yosef 4:84 extends this ruling to washing before a meal and in the morning. Orchot Rabbenu 1:12 writes that in practice Rav Ovadia Yosef himself did wash outside a bathroom whenever he had to do netilat yadyaim including the washing after going to the bathroom. <br/>
Rav Ovadia Yosef (Yachaveh Daat 3:1) wasn't lenient to wash in a bathroom unless there was no other option. Yalkut Yosef 4:84 extends this ruling to washing before a meal and in the morning. Orchot Maran 1:12 writes that in practice Rav Ovadia Yosef himself did wash outside a bathroom whenever he had to do netilat yadyaim including the washing after going to the bathroom. <br/>
Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Or Letzion vol. 1 OC 1 and vol.2 1:9) argues that only the toilet bowl has the status of Beit HaKisseh; therefore, it's permitted to do Netilat Yadayim and even drink the waters in the bathroom, but not to recite a beracha in there. It's better to take out the water to drink, but, if one has water outside, it's better to use that. If there is also a Tzurat HaPetach in between the toilet bowl and the sink, then it's definitely a different room. The Tzurat hapetach needs to be able to withstand a common wind, so a curtain would not count. If there's a shower in the room, then it's a beit hamerchatz and prohibited to wash or drink there without a Tzurat HaPetach. Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:13) takes serious issue with this approach. To this, Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:13) concedes there is merit but recommends still washing for Asher Yatzar and Tefillah.<br/>
Rav Ben Tzion Abba Shaul (Or Letzion vol. 1 OC 1 and vol. 2 1:9) argues that only the toilet bowl has the status of Beit HaKisseh; therefore, it's permitted to do Netilat Yadayim and even drink the waters in the bathroom, but not to recite a beracha in there. It's better to take out the water to drink, but, if one has water outside, it's better to use that. If there is also a Tzurat HaPetach in between the toilet bowl and the sink, then it's definitely a different room. The Tzurat hapetach needs to be able to withstand a common wind, so a curtain would not count. If there's a shower in the room, then it's a beit hamerchatz and prohibited to wash or drink there without a Tzurat HaPetach. Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:13) takes serious issue with this approach. <br/>
Rav Ben Tzion (Or LeTzion 2:1:10) argues further that one does not need to wash at all after exiting the bathroom on a plane or train, because it's not stationary to be called a room and especially if nothing stays in the toilet at all.</ref>
Rav Ben Tzion (Or LeTzion 2:1:10) argues further that one does not need to wash at all after exiting the bathroom on a plane or train, because it's not stationary to be called a room and especially if nothing stays in the toilet at all. To this, Rav Ovadia (Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:13) concedes there is merit but recommends still washing for Asher Yatzar and Tefillah.</ref>
# If one urinated or relieved himself outside of the bathroom and his hands did not get dirty at all, then there is no obligation to wash hands in order to say [[Asher Yatzer]]. Nevertheless, one should still wash for cleanliness purposes or preparation for Tefillah.<ref>Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 7:2). Mishna Brurah 7:3 confirms this even though many disagree. Or Letzion 2:1:14
# If one urinated or relieved himself outside of the bathroom and his hands did not get dirty at all, then there is no obligation to wash hands in order to say [[Asher Yatzer]]. Nevertheless, one should still wash for cleanliness purposes or preparation for Tefillah.<ref>Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chaim 7:2). Mishna Brurah 7:3 confirms this even though many disagree. Or Letzion 2:1:14
* Urinating without Dirtying One's Hands: Rabbenu Tam cited by Ritva Yoma 30a s.v. zot holds that if one urinated and didn't dirty his hands, he doesn't have to wash his hands. Ritva argues that the proof can be rejected. He also distinguishes between not needing netilat yadayim to recite a bracha but we should wash before shema and shemona esrei.
* Urinating without Dirtying One's Hands: Rabbenu Tam cited by Ritva Yoma 30a s.v. zot holds that if one urinated and didn't dirty his hands, he doesn't have to wash his hands. Ritva argues that the proof can be rejected. He also distinguishes between not needing netilat yadayim to recite a bracha but we should wash before shema and shemona esrei.
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* Relieving Oneself Gedolim even without Dirtying One's Hands: Ritva quotes the Rav Meir HaAshkenazi who says that for relieving himself gedolim he should recite a bracha for shema and shemona esrei. Ritva concludes that one should recite netilat yadayim after gedolim even just to recite the bracha of asher yatzar.</ref>
* Relieving Oneself Gedolim even without Dirtying One's Hands: Ritva quotes the Rav Meir HaAshkenazi who says that for relieving himself gedolim he should recite a bracha for shema and shemona esrei. Ritva concludes that one should recite netilat yadayim after gedolim even just to recite the bracha of asher yatzar.</ref>
# If one placed a hand into the bathroom and pulled it back out, he is obligated to wash that hand. Some recommend washing both hands<ref>Or Letzion 2:1:13</ref>, while others argue that doing so is more than necessary.<ref>Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:15</ref>
# If one placed a hand into the bathroom and pulled it back out, he is obligated to wash that hand. Some recommend washing both hands<ref>Or Letzion 2:1:13</ref>, while others argue that doing so is more than necessary.<ref>Yabia Omer 9 OC 108:15</ref>


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